Dennis Searing cues are the best hitting

[jaflowers]

Talked to him in early May of this year about his cues at a tournament he and I were in and at the time he had to borrow a cue as he did not have one, even back at his house from what he said. He really did not seem like making cues was all that important to him. That was one reason I did not even inquire about having him build me one and went with another maker instead. He makes a nice cue but his whole "vibe" that he put out definately turned me off.

 

[merylane]

Well, since everyone here is kissing his ass let me share a bit. I knew Dennis prior to his cue making days, I lived in FL in 89-93 and played with him in a weekly tournament at Hollywood billiards, we hung out in the same rooms and I followed but never played in FL pro tour events, I wouldn't call him a friend but I would say an acquaintance. When I heard he started to make cues I decided I'd order one from him, I had heard some good things about them from Miz, and decided I would order one. I went to his shop and spent a few days with him and heart attack Jim (nickname my friend gave him). We talked about his ideas and I gave some input on a cue I wanted, at the time he was not doing inlay work, so the cue was a basic 4 point design. He gave me a price of $750 for the cue and told me 4 months (again it was early on and he had no wait) I made the mistake of giving him a deposit. In the following months I tried to e-mail and call him leaving more then a few messages, never to get a reply, after the 4 months was up I called to see where the cue was as far as progress, again no reply. 6 months later I went back to the shop, my cue had not even been started, I asked why and got a bunch of excuses, from equipment to divorce issues, and so on. I cut him some slack and asked when he felt it could be done by, he promised me the cue in 6 months. Again 6 months came and went and he never answered the phone or returned an e-mail (he had caller ID at the time). I went back to the shop and still no cue was started. I had about 10 tips put on other shafts that day and took the money out of my cue deposit and told him I still wanted the cue, he promised again that the cue would be done in 3 months and that he had a bunch of repairs that held him up. I told him I would come back in 3 months for the cue or my deposit back, again he promised it would be done. I showed up at the end of the 3 months and sure enough no cue was even started, I was now at almost 2 years and he had since took off and I was now starting to think that he was never going to build me a cue because he was able to get double what he quoted me for the same cue. I asked for my deposit back and of course he didn't have the money, he asked me to come back in a few days and he would have it. I did get my money back and he was very apologetic. I told him I would still love to have the cue I ordered and that I could not trust him to make it with my deposit, but when it was done I would pay in full. It's been 5+ years since then and still no cue, I've seen him and had diner with him and not even a mention of the cue. He is a great guy who would rather fish then make cues, he may be very good at building cues, but he is a terrible business man. I know many people love his work and the way his cues play and I am not trying to talk bad about his work, he makes a nice cue. But I am just warning anyone here about his business practices. The man needs to work on that part of his business and the trouble is that as long as he makes a nice cue people will defend his actions.

Jim

jimbo is gonna get mean with me for replying but here we go.

another neg. post by jimbo, he thinks i try to start some thing with him but im not, it just seems sometthing in his posts are confusing to me.

according to jimbos post dennis has only been making for 7 years?

is that right? he said when he first started..... 2 yrs..... + 5yrs.....=7yrs.

sorry jimbo if im wrong.

 

[drivermaker]

Your collection of Searing cues is outstanding. You listed a lot of very fine cue makers and i'd be interested in your opinion on why you think Searing cues play better than the cues in the list of cues that you've owned.

SCCues

I'd like to echo the above post to Dak21st. You never answered it. Not only WHY do they play better, but of the cuemakers you listed in your initial post, HOW MANY of them have you had extensive play time with?

 

[Dak21st]

I'd like to echo the above post to Dak21st. You never answered it. Not only WHY do they play better, but of the cuemakers you listed in your initial post, HOW MANY of them have you had extensive play time with?

I replied earlier on pg.1 of this thread to the playibility.I have owned and played with all that I listed in my orginal posting I even forgot to mention the Tibbitts & Black Boar I once owned.In my oppinion I chose Searing to be the better hitting.I then decided to thin my collection to only Searing,Showman,Haley,and G.Szamboti.I did recently purchase a Harry Richards and look forward to trying it out when it arrives.Once again this is only my oppinion and you know what they say " oppinions are the same as ***holes everybody has one".

 

[Rackin_Zack]

I replied earlier on pg.1 of this thread to the playibility.I have owned and played with all that I listed in my orginal posting I even forgot to mention the Tibbitts & Black Boar I once owned.In my oppinion I chose Searing to be the better hitting.I then decided to thin my collection to only Searing,Showman,Haley,and G.Szamboti.I did recently purchase a Harry Richards and look forward to trying it out when it arrives.Once again this is only my oppinion and you know what they say " oppinions are the same as ***holes everybody has one".

But what is it about the way the Searing cues hit that makes them superior? Specifically, what qualities do the Searings have that the others don't, or what do the others have that you don't like?

 

[Stixnballs]

searing cue

But what is it about the way the Searing cues hit that makes them superior? Specifically, what qualities do the Searings have that the others don't, or what do the others have that you don't like?

What I like is the deflection, or should I say lack of. It is simply aim and shoot and the ball goes where you want. also you can stay arounds the center of the cue and get more action than you can handle.

Searings play without effort. the hit is hard to explain, but if you ever get the chance to hit with one, you will definetrly line up and wait for one.

just a note: I was at valley forge a couple of years ago and Bob Meucci had his robot there showing deflection and asking people to test there shafts against his. when I went up to him and gave him mine and was asked whose cue it was, his answer to me was "no".

 

[Dak21st]

What I like is the deflection, or should I say lack of. It is simply aim and shoot and the ball goes where you want. also you can stay arounds the center of the cue and get more action than you can handle.

Searings play without effort. the hit is hard to explain, but if you ever get the chance to hit with one, you will definetrly line up and wait for one.

just a note: I was at valley forge a couple of years ago and Bob Meucci had his robot there showing deflection and asking people to test there shafts against his. when I went up to him and gave him mine and was asked whose cue it was, his answer to me was "no".

Thank you,very well put.

 

[Rackin_Zack]

just a note: I was at valley forge a couple of years ago and Bob Meucci had his robot there showing deflection and asking people to test there shafts against his. when I went up to him and gave him mine and was asked whose cue it was, his answer to me was "no".

That's hilarious...lol. Thanks for the info stix.

 

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Originally Posted by JimBo
He is a great guy who would rather fish then make cues,

I heard this very same thing from another good source.

that's earth shattering news! i wonder how many other people would rather be doing one of their favorite activities instead of what they do for a living?

 

[cuedoctor]

Searing play

But what is it about the way the Searing cues hit that makes them superior? Specifically, what qualities do the Searings have that the others don't, or what do the others have that you don't like?

I have had 5 searings and have a few thoughts about why they play well. The joint on searing cues are very tight and he has very close tolerances so it makes the cue feel like a one piece cue.Also his shafts are very well known for there low deflection like mentioned so when you put the 2 together they just feel like they hit better than cues your use to playing. Even if you can just get one of his shafts that fit your cue you will be happy.

 

[JimBo]

jimbo is gonna get mean with me for replying but here we go.

Nope, not going to get mean, but if you want to post then go ahead and post, don't post trying to pick apart my post. Add something to this thread. Good or bad, just add something.


another neg. post by jimbo, he thinks i try to start some thing with him but im not, it just seems sometthing in his posts are confusing to me.

Why point out it was negative? Are you stalking again? My post is just my dealings with the guy, maybe you had better luck, but since you aren't going to post anything worth reading I guess we'll never know. Do you own a Searing? Did you order one from him personally? What was your experience? I'd love to hear it.



according to jimbos post dennis has only been making for 7 years?

I don't believe I said when he started or how long he's been making cues, If I could remember when the BCA trade show in Orlando was I'd be able to give you exact time frame for my story, I'm senile and can't.

is that right? he said when he first started..... 2 yrs..... + 5yrs.....=7yrs.

sorry jimbo if im wrong.

You're wrong just for your meaningless post, if you want to add to this by sharing your own dealings with the man go right ahead, if you want to cross examine me then go screw (in a nice not mean way ) My story is true, I'll stick behind it 100% and you can feel free to call and ask Dennis about it, but since he won't answer your call I won't wait to hear what he says.

Jim

PS The bad part is if I posted that I thought he was the best you'd want to question that also, get a life.

 

[JimBo]

Originally Posted by JimBo
He is a great guy who would rather fish then make cues,




that's earth shattering news! i wonder how many other people would rather be doing one of their favorite activities instead of what they do for a living?

Well, it's true for most if not all, but then again most are responsible to know that they first need to pay bills and handle their business in a professional way.

Jim

 

[Rich R.]

Originally Posted by JimBo
He is a great guy who would rather fish then make cues,




that's earth shattering news! i wonder how many other people would rather be doing one of their favorite activities instead of what they do for a living?

You are correct. I would rather be doing other things than sitting here working, however, people rely on me doing my job, so I rarely get to do the other things. I do my job and deliver on time.

 

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Can it JimBo!

Well, it's true for most if not all, but then again most are responsible to know that they first need to pay bills and handle their business in a professional way.

Jim

CAN IT! JimBo! If i want your opinion i'll ask for it!

 

[Szambushka]

Well I wonder how popular his cues would be now if Miz hadn't supplied a glowing review in a magazine not long ago.. but I guess the same could be asked about Cantalanado, I remember seeing some of his cues rotting on a website before BSzam came out with the I taught him some things..

Szammy

"its all bout the PR"

 

[JimBo]

"its all bout the PR"

I don't believe this to be true, although some here think it is and work very hard to try to create the buzzzz. I think good work stands out and sooner or later people find it and the word spreads.

Jim