Diamond 9ft one piece slate.

realkingcobra

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This is an actual one piece 9ft 1" thick slate, 618lbs. I installed it on a Diamond 9ft Professional, ball return table with Dymondwood rails, and the Diamond 22 point leveling system. Turned out great. I installed the slate by myself...LOL

Glen
 

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Very Nice Job

Glen,

Looks like you did a nice job insatlling the one piece slat.
Questions:
1. Does the table play noticably different?
2. Do any of the balls get hung up inside the ball return rails?

Hal
 
Hal2 said:
Glen,

Looks like you did a nice job insatlling the one piece slat.
Questions:
1. Does the table play noticeably different?
2. Do any of the balls get hung up inside the ball return rails?

Hal

Hi Hal,
First of all, I thank you for your complement.

Q. Does the table play noticeably different?

A. Unlike all other 9ft tables on the market, this table actually has the rail bolts running through the cross member frame first, then the slate, then into the rails. The slate is actually free floating until you bolt down the top rails. Unlike other 3 piece slates, including the Diamond 9ft Professional, they are all held in place for the most part by 4 slate screws per slate. Then the rails are bolted to the slate from there. On this table, with this one piece slate and the cross member system, the slate is actually clamped to the frame of the table with 24 3/8th's" rail bolts. Then the slate is leveled to the frame of the table via 22 leveling points under the slate...with the rails attached. Therefore, the sound effects of a ball bouncing off the rails is more deadened by the transfer of the energy of the bank through the rail, slate, and frame of the table. As far as playing noticeably different...no, but sound effects wise, oh yes.

Some of the huge benefits to the one piece slate are the fact that the cloth is installed completely staple free, no backer boards to ever replace. Secondly, no seams to ever finish off, or to have to level, or come apart.

Q. Do any of the balls get hung up inside the ball return rails?

A. Well, this table was Diamond's first attempt to cross breed the Diamond Professional with the Diamond Pro Am 1 piece slate and new leveling system, so I could tell you everything went perfect but, that wouldn't be me. I will say there were a few problems, which is why I was the one that did the install and not someone else. I guess because I'm at times like a test pilot...lmao. Diamond and I learned a lot from this table and the the one following this one. Chad at Diamond has assured me that they have made the necessary changes in the design of the Diamond Professional table in order to continue the option of being able to order future tables with the option of the best combination of frame, leveling system, slate, and rails on planet earth...LOL I'll be seeing the changes in the table when I'm back at the Diamond factory in a couple of weeks. I might even pop in on the DCC while I'm there as well. So, to answer your question, no, there was no problem with the ball return after I was finished...LOL



Glen
 
PoolTable911 said:
Glen,
What is the dolly you are using? Did you have it made or did you buy it?

Pat O'Donnell
www.Pool-Table-Services.com

Pat,
Thank you for your interest in my Dolly. I designed this dolly to move Diamond smart tables, Valley/Dynamo...or any other coin-operated pool tables on the market. It actually straps to the side of the table first, then flip up the table to the dolly. Can't bend leg levelers, and can walk curbs. In fact I move Diamond 9ft Pro Am's by myself, as well as all other tables. But, as you see, I also move 1 piece slates with them as well. I haven't started selling them yet, but I'm close...if I can ever get some time...LOL They're going to go for around $450.00 and they're made out of aluminum so they're real light weight.

Glen
 
Amazing

It actaully sent a pain through my bones when I looked at that slate. I bet it is a really quiet playing table. Funny thing is that unless the house has a cement floor the floor will need bracing.
Is that Champion cloth??
That table of yours looks like something out of the twilight zone. Amazing table!!!
Nick:)
 
nick serdula said:
It actaully sent a pain through my bones when I looked at that slate. I bet it is a really quiet playing table. Funny thing is that unless the house has a cement floor the floor will need bracing.
Is that Champion cloth??
That table of yours looks like something out of the twilight zone. Amazing table!!!
Nick:)

This table is Mike Richardson's of Belton, TX. He built this room separate from his house just for his pool table. And yes, it's on a cement floor, but weighs really no more than most other 9fts on the market, it's just a BIG piece of slate on this one....LMAO And no, that's 860 cloth, tour blue as a matter of fact.

Glen
 
Glen,

Is this an install that you did on a used pro 3-piece? If so, I would love to have my table converted to a 1 piece with the level bolts. I change the cloth on my table at least once a year so the 1 piece would be nice. I have changed it twice already since you set my table up initally, although once was because I moved. I am having a problem with one of the pieces sinking away from the other about 5 inches out from the rail. It dont affect any shots but it is discourageing. It did it when you set the table up about a month after, then about a month after i moved and did the table myself it did the same thing, I glued the seams like you said too.
 
Pugh said:
Glen,

Is this an install that you did on a used pro 3-piece? If so, I would love to have my table converted to a 1 piece with the level bolts. I change the cloth on my table at least once a year so the 1 piece would be nice. I have changed it twice already since you set my table up initally, although once was because I moved. I am having a problem with one of the pieces sinking away from the other about 5 inches out from the rail. It dont affect any shots but it is discourageing. It did it when you set the table up about a month after, then about a month after i moved and did the table myself it did the same thing, I glued the seams like you said too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you located in South Dakota? I've delivered so many tables I can't remember them all. To answer your question though, yes, I could change your table from a 3 piece to a 1 piece slate. It's a pain in the butt, but I can do it..LOL as far as the cost, you'd have to get with Brian on that. My area of expertise is the pool tables, I don't have anything to do with pricing...LOL

Glen

PS. "Is this an install that you did on a used pro 3-piece?" No, this was the first Diamond Pro 9 that had the one piece slate with ball return sold with the one piece slate.
 
Yeah,

I am in SD. I really wish I would have went with the pro-am. My table is in the basement, but I have extra wide stairs that go from my garage to my pool room so I dont think it would be too much trouble getting a 1 piece table down their. I dont ever plan on moving so getting it back out wouldnt be a concern.
 
Pugh said:
Yeah,

I am in SD. I really wish I would have went with the pro-am. My table is in the basement, but I have extra wide stairs that go from my garage to my pool room so I dont think it would be too much trouble getting a 1 piece table down their. I dont ever plan on moving so getting it back out wouldnt be a concern.

If you remember...I think I told you about getting the pro am back then..LOL Send me some pictures of the access way to the pool room area and I'll tell you if I can install the slate.


Glen
realkingcobra@aol.com
 
realkingcobra said:
If you remember...I think I told you about getting the pro am back then..LOL Send me some pictures of the access way to the pool room area and I'll tell you if I can install the slate.


Glen
realkingcobra@aol.com


The first time I talked to you was when you delivered the table so no, you didnt mention it to me. Brian on the other hand did. The reason I went with a 3 piece was because I was going to be building a new house and the house plan wasnt done yet, so I wasnt for sure if a 1 piece would work in the new house.

The only problem would be the amount of stairs. I have clear span floor joists to give me the full 8' ceiling height in the basement and that adds a few extra stairs.
 
Pugh said:
The first time I talked to you was when you delivered the table so no, you didnt mention it to me. Brian on the other hand did. The reason I went with a 3 piece was because I was going to be building a new house and the house plan wasnt done yet, so I wasnt for sure if a 1 piece would work in the new house.

The only problem would be the amount of stairs. I have clear span floor joists to give me the full 8' ceiling height in the basement and that adds a few extra stairs.

LOL...no, I was talking about at the time I was at your house when I said you should have gotten a pro am because I could have came right straight through the kitchen into the area where you wanted to put the table. And I do remember you making mention of having to move the table. So anyway, what would you like for me to do now? A one piece slate is not all that hard to install...it's the Pro Am table body that's a nightmare at times to install. If you want, we can work this out...I'm willing if you are.

Glen
 
I wont do anything until after the derby city for sure. My wife would like a 7' pro am because the big table is too discouraging for her as she is just beginning and she is rather short:D
 
Pugh said:
I wont do anything until after the derby city for sure. My wife would like a 7' pro am because the big table is too discouraging for her as she is just beginning and she is rather short:D

Well, keep me informed as I'll be at the DCC as well, but mainly at the Diamond factory while I'm back there.

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Hi Hal,
First of all, I thank you for your complement.

Q. Does the table play noticeably different?

A. Unlike all other 9ft tables on the market, this table actually has the rail bolts running through the cross member frame first, then the slate, then into the rails. The slate is actually free floating until you bolt down the top rails. Unlike other 3 piece slates, including the Diamond 9ft Professional, they are all held in place for the most part by 4 slate screws per slate. Then the rails are bolted to the slate from there. On this table, with this one piece slate and the cross member system, the slate is actually clamped to the frame of the table with 24 3/8th's" rail bolts. Then the slate is leveled to the frame of the table via 22 leveling points under the slate...with the rails attached. Therefore, the sound effects of a ball bouncing off the rails is more deadened by the transfer of the energy of the bank through the rail, slate, and frame of the table. As far as playing noticeably different...no, but sound effects wise, oh yes.

Some of the huge benefits to the one piece slate are the fact that the cloth is installed completely staple free, no backer boards to ever replace. Secondly, no seams to ever finish off, or to have to level, or come apart.

Q. Do any of the balls get hung up inside the ball return rails?

A. Well, this table was Diamond's first attempt to cross breed the Diamond Professional with the Diamond Pro Am 1 piece slate and new leveling system, so I could tell you everything went perfect but, that wouldn't be me. I will say there were a few problems, which is why I was the one that did the install and not someone else. I guess because I'm at times like a test pilot...lmao. Diamond and I learned a lot from this table and the the one following this one. Chad at Diamond has assured me that they have made the necessary changes in the design of the Diamond Professional table in order to continue the option of being able to order future tables with the option of the best combination of frame, leveling system, slate, and rails on planet earth...LOL I'll be seeing the changes in the table when I'm back at the Diamond factory in a couple of weeks. I might even pop in on the DCC while I'm there as well. So, to answer your question, no, there was no problem with the ball return after I was finished...LOL



Glen
Glen,

It was a pleasure speaking with you yesterday evening. You gave me alot of great information and I do appreciate that!

Looking forward to you dropping off one of those 9' one piece slate Pro-Am's at my door.

Talk to ya soon
Gary Andrews
 
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