yup i had their layerd tip, it's a great tip but i did lose three layers when i was shaping it, but i talked to the guy that sold me the tip ( he's a dealer for them) and he sent a message to the guys at R&D for dimondback, and dimondback said it was a fluke, so they are sending me another layerd tip for free, right now i gotten a free leather tip from them as well and it works really well i like it. the layered tip feels a little better than a moorie imo.