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Mike Massey must be 6'5".

How do you suppose you get the pendulum analogy without rotation?

I'm at least a foot shorter than Massey. With no elbow drop I have about 10" of useful stroke.
The video isn't so much about Mike Massey, but shows how the deep screw obtained by Mike Massey (with elbow drop) can also be achieved without elbow drop.
 
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The video isn't so much about Mike Massey, but shows how the deep screw obtained by Mike Massey (with elbow drop) can also be achieved without elbow drop.
Yes but the guy's no shorty either. And as you can see, there's an abrupt and forceful stop to the stroke. I wasn't arguing that it can't be done only that it shouldn't if your arms aren't long enough.
 
Yes but the guy's no shorty either. And as you can see, there's an abrupt and forceful stop to the stroke. I wasn't arguing that it can't be done only that it shouldn't if your arms aren't long enough.
you were wrong in your original statements and premise
you can twist it anyway you like.
the fact is the elbow hinges not torques and you can power draw without elbow drop and everyones forearm can pendulum
 
you were wrong in your original statements and premise
you can twist it anyway you like.
the fact is the elbow hinges not torques and you can power draw without elbow drop and everyones forearm can pendulum
Mind quoting the post in question? You seem fixated on this twisting notion. The joint is torqued because it PIVOTS.
 
Mind quoting the post in question? You seem fixated on this twisting notion. The joint is torqued because it PIVOTS.
can you show how it pivots ? how does a hinge pivot?
the humerus stays on line and your forearm should not pronate or supinate on a proper stroke
i like to learn
if i have misunderstood these things i am happy to get educated so i am not wrong in the future
 
Mike Massey must be 6'5".

I'm at least a foot shorter than Massey. With no elbow drop I have about 10" of useful stroke.
Yeah, if you're less than 5'5" I can see you might have some reach problems, although according to the snooker coaches, your stroke only needs to be 8-10".

There are some short snooker players like Mink, and in pool, Johann Chua recommends the fixed elbow, and I don't think he's very tall.
 
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can you show how it pivots ? how does a hinge pivot?
the humerus stays on line and your forearm should not pronate or supinate on a proper stroke
i like to learn
if i have misunderstood these things i am happy to get educated so i am not wrong in the future
Pivoting is how a hinge works. Duh?
 
serlab78
i am sorry i have side tracked your thread
but i must respond when responded to
again i say to straightline
lets finish via PM
 
Personally, I think hitting the cue ball that hard without elbow drop is unnatural. I suspect that is why most pros don't execute power shots without it. As an extreme example, I don't think I've seen any break shots done without dropping the elbow.

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power draw no elbow drop
watch whole video if you want

Many of the shots done in pool end up having a dropped elbow during the stroke. Does not matter what one giant pro player can do, it's like showing Bustamante or Keith as an example that we don't need to teach the established stoke mechanics to new players and that just having them wildly move around on the shot works.
 
Pivoting is how a hinge works. Duh?
a hinge goes forward and backward
if you want to call that pivoting ok
that has nothing to do with your statement regarding torque to the elbow
i showed a power draw with no elbow drop
listen
you can nitpick if you want
you often have a unique perspective and use of the english language
i am done and will just say we need to agree to disagree
peace ☮️✌️
 
Yeah, if you're less than 5'5" I can see you might have some reach problems, although according to the snooker coaches, your stroke only needs to be 8-10".

There are some short snooker players like Mink, and in pool, Johann Chua recommends the fixed elbow, and I don't think he's very tall.
Chua recommends the release stroke for power draw. But forget the specifics of power draw and substitute "power break" as in the 20+ MPH rams of the past. See all I'm talking about is the damage not dropping the elbow can do. Say you're fine breaking at maximum for a few racks. Even if you have the proper physique, the sudden stop is needless and will cause strain and can easily be pushed to injury. Say you're a good player and ideally you want to breaking all day. You can drop the elbow and play on or practice the break until it can withstand itself.
 
a hinge goes forward and backward
if you want to call that pivoting ok
that has nothing to do with your statement regarding torque to the elbow
i showed a power draw with no elbow drop
listen
you can nitpick if you want
you often have a unique perspective and use of the english language
i am done and will just say we need to agree to disagree
peace ☮️✌️
Hinge opens and closes. Piston goes back and forth.
 
Hinge opens and closes. Piston goes back and forth.
i will repeat my post above
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a hinge goes forward and backward
if you want to call that pivoting ok
that has nothing to do with your statement regarding torque to the elbow
i showed a power draw with no elbow drop
listen
you can nitpick if you want
you often have a unique perspective and use of the english language
i am done and will just say we need to agree to disagree
peace ☮️✌️
 
You seem to have lost your grip Larry.

HINGE:
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serlab78
i am sorry i have side tracked your thread
but i must respond when responded to
again i say to straightline
lets finish via PM
No problem, I am exciting about the discussion, all information is pretty good, I can't understand all perfectly because my English is not perfect, but I love any kind of information about pool. Thank you very much all people for your replies.
 
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