Do you get mad when a player forfeits they're match...read more

[Fragged]

Do you notice what's wrong with this story?

and how-If someone shakes my hand and then tells me i better shoot the 8?? I wouldnt try that too often.

 

[mattman]

It really depends on the circumstances where I think it's okay and it's not. If you're conceding the match, I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever. They do that in most sports. It's like the final down in a football game. Nobody is rushing. They just put down one knee and walk off the field.

However, if it were team play, I think conceding the final ball of a match is disrespectful to your own team. In Vegas last year, my team was down 12-9 going to 13 against a strong Portugese team. I was playing. I broke, came up dry and sat down to watch my opponent run. The guy was amazing. He played the table so beautifully, his position was so perfect. He got perfectly straight on the 8-ball as planned from the very beginning and then he dogged it. He dogged it. He dogged it. I ran out the table to make it 12-10 and my teammates proceeded to win the next 3 games after me to win the match.

I kept thinking to myself, had that not been a team match, I would have been out of my chair, ready to shake his hand. I didn't. I stayed still for my teammates and to this day, I'm amazed by how it worked out. I can't say I'll never concede a match ball but I will say this - I'll never get upset over someone conceding it to me. I just take the win and move on.

I never thought of it like that...good insight. The particular match in reference happened to be the last game of the night. If he would have made 2 balls, their team would have won, one of the five points awarded. So with that being said, he definitely should have not conceded.

Thanks Jude for bring that point up.
Matt

 

[mattman]

and how-If someone shakes my hand and then tells me i better shoot the 8?? I wouldnt try that too often.

Ok...by bad...I see what you are saying now. It was an instint move and honestly has never happened before. I probably would have taken the loss and not required him to shoot it if he wouldn't have asked if he had to shoot it.

 

[Cuebacca]

I've been known to overlook the obvious, but please tell me what's wrong with this story.

Matt

I've been known to do that myself from time to time. Not sure if this is obvious though, but I think that once you shake his hand, you have conceded the game. Since he agreed to shoot, I think that if he had missed it would have counted as a miss. But I think he could have refused to shoot the ball, stating that the game was already over by forfeit. I'm not sure if that's specifically stated in the rules, so maybe it depends on the ref.

Edit, oops, I am slow.

 

[sharkeye9]

I was playing in a tournament this weekend and it was the last match before entering the money. I was on the hill and my opponent conceded the match when I had 4 balls on the table, saying he was tired of playing. I thought it was sort of funny and accepted his forfeit right then and there. I personally rarely give balls in a tournament or money game unless I am doing it to keep them out of stroke, etc.

 

[jimmy-leggs]

Its NOT a sign of disrespect when someone gives you the game,Infact its a sign OF respect.

 

[Cuebacca]

Its NOT a sign of disrespect when someone gives you the game,Infact its a sign OF respect.

The game or the match? If you mean game, it depends on how to look at it. It has been well-established on similar threads that sometimes games are conceded for the purpose of sharking. Maybe someone only sharks someone if they respect their pool abilities but it is still disrespectful to do so, in my opinion.

 

[PaulAlex7000]

And you have to be consistent when you give him the game. That is, in a set, if you were to give him the game when he's got a fairly easy shot on the 9, and then made him shoot an easy 9 on the hill game, that could be considered a form of sharking.

There was this one local tourney where the guy was on the 9 and the CB was on the rail. I flinched a bit, was going to give him the game but since the CB was on the rail, I wanted him to shoot. He missed because how I flinched in my chair (changing my mind) and because someone called out his name.

I won but I actually gave him that game instead because I sharked him.