Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?
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No, but apparently you are.Once again caught red-handed, and still you deny it. All the posts you have in this thread, and yet not a single one adds to the discussion.
I can't be caught 'red handed' because I've NEVER done anything that goes along with that phrase.
Yet, you think yourself to be a great detective of some kind but does not know the difference between subjective & objective.
My posts have fostered thought by some & perhaps many 'out there' to perhaps give some more thought as to the true nature of CTE.
You & some others seem to only want sheep to blindly follow the lead.
You're perspective hypothesis simply is NOT possible given the previously defined parameters.
Dan & others can see & understand that even if you are not capable of such intelligent critical thinking.
Again...
Anyone that wants to buy & try CTE should certainly do so, but with their eyes & minds open as to it's true core nature.
With Best Wishes & Prayers.
My bad habits were there long before learning any aiming system. You're very lucky that I was on tilt and not focused on my form. As I said though CTE aiming did help me make a lot of shots that kept me in the game despite my worst form coming out.
So its exactly the opposite, CTE aiming helps a player whose form is crippled make more shots and tougher shots more often.
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It's incomprehensible to you because you make no real effort to comprehend it.
Stan made a mistake in ball placement to incorrectly label the shot ad a half ball hit when it was not one. So for the non CTE half ball aim the shot had to be thrown in to go.
But on all the Cte shots the stroke was straight and the ball went in. So actually the premise is fully validated.
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Remember what I said way back in this thread about cte always changing?
In this thread alone cte started out as a system that supposedly takes you to the exact shot line but its not a magic bullet because if you dont have the stroke you will still miss. Now its a system that allows a person with a poor stroke to make more shots?
You don't really listen because you're dead set against it at all costs.
It's ok, I will use the kindergarten approach, gently repeat.
1. CTE is a fixed method of alignment to help the shooter find the shot line.
2. Once the shot line is found the shooter must execute. It IS possible to make the ball with a poor stroke and it is possible to throw the cueball OFF of the shot line as well.
There are no absolutes in execution. As Bill Stroud reminded everyone the pocket in pool is larger than the ball. Thus there IS a margin of error from the center pocket shot line.
It's possible to line up dead perfect and gin it with a perfect stroke.
It's possible to line up dead perfect and make it with a lousy stroke.
It's possible to line up dead perfect and dog it with a lousy stroke.
It's NOT possible to line up wrong and make it with a perfect stroke.
It's possible to line up wrong and throw the ball in with a lousy stroke UNINTENTIONALLY.
It's possible to DELIBERATELY line up wrong and make the ball by INTENTIONALLY throwing the cueball.
Add spin into the mix and that increases the variables present in the execution phase of the shot.
All CTE does for the shooter is bring them to the right shot line. Everything after that is affected by what the shooter does. Colin showed that the shooter can make a ball when the shot line is known and marked even if the stroke is not straight. You hate CTE and us so much that you are blind to the evidence in front of you.
For some reason you want to make this intensely personal and attack people on a personal level rather than to look at the totality of the evidence.
I do not even view it as a mistake. I used a tool and it read the shot as a 30 degree angle.
The truth of the matter is, is that my point was made, regardless of the shot location as long as it was anywhere near 30.
When one simple shot in a 5 year span can not be set up to disprove CTE then what is resorted to:
1. Language/semantics----also stuff like Stan Stammers....
2. Slo-motion stroke errors that have nothing to do with anything. CTE is a visual system!
3. Personal attachs ...like snake oil salesman....recently I was called a liar.
I appreciate it all........because CTE is not going anywhere except to be stronger than ever.
Stan Shuffett
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They were and are. I am sure in my life before aiming systems my bad habits caused a lot of misses. The difference was that I didn't know whether it was because I was aimed wrong and thus using body english to compensate or whether I was aimed right and just dogging the stroke. I had the same bad habits that a lot of players have and just didn't bother to break them since I was able to have some success despite them.
But when I bear down and really focus then my stroke does straighten out and I can maintain a higher level for a while.
Here you go Dan. My analysis of your analysis of Stan's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THkFF7FBGBA
What you both seem to be missing at 6:35 of your video,JB, is that the stroke stays straight through contact. It doesn't have that large swoop until well after the cb is gone. And, the only reason it swoops then is because Stan dropped his elbow after the shot causing the cue to swerve.
Another point to make about using lines to determine a straight stroke- what counts is the final stroke to the cb up to the actual hit. Many pros strokes are basically all over the place until the final stroke, which is dead straight. Also, just the act of the tip hitting the cb will cause the cue to go off line at least a little bit.
So, if using lines to determine how straight the stroke is, several things have to be taken into account.
He clearly thought it was a half ball - he said so. So why would he throw it? And how good can "CTE perception" be if you can't hit a half ball shot, the simplest alignment there is?
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Pat, you are so busy trying to nitpick that you can't see the forest for the trees.
Was it about a 30 degree angle? Yes. So, Stan said a 30 degree angle. No, he did not get out his protractor and measure the exact angle. Using CTE there is no need to do that. For a 30, or a near 30 degree angle, the visuals are the arrived at the same way.
Seems like all some want to do is nitpick instead of simply following directions given and then reaping the benefits of using CTE. Your loss.
This isn't like a certain other poster that had glaring misstatements in his system. Ones that actually would hurt someones game if followed to the letter.
You are weak if this is all you have.
Nothing that I say makes any difference to a Hater like you. But...
The real issue here is one that no one would likely pick up on: I do not look at fractional guesswork shots any more. I do not shoot that way! Looking at and shooting that shot the way I did is a joke of a way to play.....that is exactly why I do not shoot fractions or the other guess approaches.
Stan Shuffett
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Exactly, Neil!
He is fighting a losing battle. Mr. Angle Man can not meet with me and present one simple angle that is problematic.
Stan Shuffett
John,
Is that an 'admission' that Stan does not know the why & how CTE works for those that it does? Otherwise, why the need to look into the 'nuts & bolts' of it?
It seems that you really do want to play on that one way street.
You can come out & rebut what others say but they can not come in & rebut what you & others say.
It seems that to the point of finding out about the TRUE 'nuts & bolts' one should have & want input from ALL sides & not be limited to one line of thought. You seem to want to continually leave out, talk around, etc. regarding the abstract reasons that CTE might work for some & not others. IF it is truly objective in it's core nature, then it should work to a very comparative degree for everyone. That is sort of what objectivity is about.
Now as to those that want to just learn HOW TO USE & IMPLEMENT CTE... I would totally agree with you that that process should be without the side show of the 'nuts & colts'.
I think it is rather telling that you want to exclude certain thoughts from the process. That brings to mind a certain political party of the 30s & 40s that used censorship & propaganda.
Best Wishes.
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If you make things personal then you get challenged.
We already know that the outcome of a challenge match does not change the facts or anyone's mind. But its still fun to make them even when there is virtually no chance of them being accepted.
Post without attacking the person and stay on topic and no one gets riled up enough to want to play.
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In other words, he's guessing what the cut angle is...ie very subjective.
Well when one says it's a 30 degree, but than says it's not.....gee wonder why the are those that jumb on the inconsistencies associated with CTE.
It is either a 30 degree cut shot or not.
There are no benefits of CTE....none.
Ron Swanson
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I don't constantly tell people how to aim.
Ron Swanson
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Why don't you come here? After all, english pool is 'easy' to you, you cleaned up last time, remember?
You can even play one of your silly ten aheads if you wish. When your ready, John.