Does high temperature warp the cue? or just humidity?

tie19858

tie19858

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I live in Taiwan.

Several months ago I vistied a local cue-repair shop, and the repair guy show me the room they store the cues. There is no air conditioning in the room, and no window either. I think the temperature of the room is around 95"F degree. I asked the repair guy whether the high temperature would warp the cue, and he answered only humidity does. Is that true? How this relates to putting the cue in the car trunk?

Thanks~

RT.
 
High humidity makes wood swell/expand.
Low humidity make them shrink and possibly warp.
Cues in the trunk is what idiots do. It gets over 100 degrees in there.
Not good for wood and glue.
 
JoeyInCali said:
High humidity makes wood swell/expand.
Low humidity make them shrink and possibly warp.
Cues in the trunk is what idiots do. It gets over 100 degrees in there.
Not good for wood and glue.
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Thanks for your reply. Now I know the variation of humidity contributes to warping. How about temperature? Does high temperature also make a cue warp? How?
 
High temp will expand the different materials in the cue at different rates so you can get rings raising points and inlays raising and sometimes enough to breakthe bond of the clear on the cue and leave air pockets underneath ,the same also goes for cold conditions like we get up here in Canada.Also while expanding whos to say its going to be exact for all pieces so it can bend a cue.
 
Temperature could change from 0-100deg with humidity being almost constant... but then, temperature has different effects on material depending on the materials' tolerances...
 
All I can say for sure is that leaving a cue in a hot car for too long can increase odds of It warping, I have seen this many, many times. Whether or not that is mostly contributed to the heat or the humidity though I'm not positive.

Here's something that happened to me lately, probably not related, but I've been meaning to mention It anyway. I've been doing some work on the house, and I went down to get some wood, when I got back I put some outside on the concrete exposed to the heat rain, all the elements outside, and then I put some inside in the ac, laying flat on hard concrete the same as what was outside, but under cover of a roof. A couple of the pieces inside warped badly going in 2 or 3 different directions very quickly, the pieces outside exposed to the open envirement stayed almost perfectly straight. They were the same type of boards from the same pallet.

Greg
 
str8shooter said:
Whats the ideal humidity level for cue storage and raw materials to be kept?
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Good question. And what is the ideal temperature for cue storage? Until what degree it's not recommended to put a cue in?
 
str8shooter said:
Whats the ideal humidity level for cue storage and raw materials to be kept?
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Whatever is the ideal conditions we feel is best for us or we are in, would be the best condition for cue storage IMO... our cues are used and should be exposed to the conditons we'll be using them. JMO
 
our cues are used and should be exposed to the conditons we'll be using them.


You mean cues as they are being built?
 
The perfect temp and humidity is whatever the temp and humidity is while being built. Humidity and temp doesn't affect cues, per say, change does.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
The perfect temp and humidity is whatever the temp and humidity is while being built. Humidity and temp doesn't affect cues, per say, change does.

Dick
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A furniture guy once told me it was the rate at wich change happend that caused wood damage, "it takes a long time to get a piano from the east coast to denver without any damage."
I always figured that as fast as a car can heat up and cool off, it was a recipe for disaster.
 
I can aggree with that. The drastic change does seem to have the most effect. It could be going from a hot humid envirement to a cool & dry one all of a sudden, or the other way around. The change It'self is what has the most effect from my observations. That's the same with alot of things in nature.
 
Thanks for all the reply. Here are some conclusions from the discussion:

1. humidity or temperature themself don't warp the cue. If a cue is built (the woods are aged) in a high-temperature and high-humidity environment, then the cue can be used to the condition without warping.

2. Extreamly high temperature still hurts the cue.

3. The changes of humidity and the changes of temperature can warp a cue.

4. Don't put a cue into the car trunk for a long time.

Glad to learn these things. Appreciated.
 
The simple answer is both will warp a cue. Also extreme cold can do damage to a cue also.
 
]. humidity or temperature themself don't warp the cue. If a cue is built (the woods are aged) in a high-temperature and high-humidity environment, then the cue can be used to the condition without warping.


You cannot prevent wood from moving.
It can and will move.
Properly seasoned and centered woods should move back to it's originally state when normal conditions come back.
 
JoeyInCali said:
]. humidity or temperature themself don't warp the cue. If a cue is built (the woods are aged) in a high-temperature and high-humidity environment, then the cue can be used to the condition without warping.


You cannot prevent wood from moving.
It can and will move.
Properly seasoned and centered woods should move back to it's originally state when normal conditions come back.
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Normal = ?

Didn't know such a thing existed................especially in cues.
 
heat

For r and d purposes I leave one in my truck all year around and play with it. From -10 to 100+ inside the truck 3 years of that and still straight n solid. Constant 95 + in a room they would take any humidity change quickly. If the cues are stored straight up and down and were built right I wouldn't think that 95 would hurt them. It takes more heat than that to release epoxy and super glue.

I do agree whatever climate the cue is built in makes a difference to how it acts when it is being used or stored. I keep it between 38 and 43% on the hygrometer all year. My dehumids hate me but they suck a lot of water out of the air over the course of a year.

My 2 cents
 
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