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I am in the market for a durometer to test some of the tips I carry for certain customers. I see different models ext . Any help for which type and model would be appreciated.
 
Following is a listing of cue tip hardness rating using a Shore A Durometer (for softer materials - a D Durometer is used for harder materials) courtesy of PoolDawg:

The methodology we use for testing tip density is as follows:
• Use a standard Shore A Durometer (0-100 hardness scale)
•1Kg (2.2 lbs) of pressure
•Measure the density of three tips per brand
•Take the average of the three measurements to determine a density rating


Tip Brand

Tip Size

Hardness

Price

Zan (Soft) 14mm 66.3 Click for Price
Elk Master 10-14mm 66.8 Click for Price
Kamui Black (Super Soft) 14mm 67.5 Click for Price
Da Vinci (Soft) 14mm 68.7 Click for Price
Black Heart (Soft) 14mm 68.7 Click for Price
5280 Red Line (Tiger) 14mm 69.2 Click for Price
Kamui (Super Soft) 14mm 69.2 Click for Price
Morakami (Super Soft) 14mm 72.0 Click for Price
Kamui Black (Soft) 14mm 72.3 Click for Price
Aramith Laminated (Soft) 14mm 72.6 Click for Price
Moori (Soft) 14mm 72.8 Click for Price
Da Vinci (Medium) 14mm 73.6 Click for Price
Fuji (Soft) 14mm 74.2 Click for Price
Morakami (Soft) 14mm 74.3 Click for Price
G2 (Soft) 14mm 74.8 Click for Price
Hirano (Soft) 14mm 75.2 Click for Price
Predator Victory (Soft) 14mm 75.3 Click for Price
Moori (Medium) 14mm 75.5 Click for Price
Flying Pig (Medium) 14mm 75.5 Click for Price
Tiger Everest 14mm 75.7 Click for Price
Aramith Laminated (Medium) 14mm 75.8 Click for Price
Tiger Emerald 14mm 76.0 Click for Price
Tiger Onyx 14mm 76.4 Click for Price
Black Heart (Medium) 14mm 76.6 Click for Price
Tiger Laminated (Soft) 14mm 76.7 Click for Price
Zan (Medium) 14mm 77.8 Click for Price
Tiger Sniper 14mm 77.8 Click for Price
Kamui II (Soft) 14mm 78.1 Click for Price
Tiger Laminated (Medium) 14mm 78.2 Click for Price
Elite 11 Layer 14mm 78.3 Click for Price
Fuji (Medium) 14mm 78.5 Click for Price
Kamui Black (Medium) 14mm 78.7 Click for Price
Moori V 14mm 79.3 Not Available
Talisman Pro (Soft) 14mm 79.6 Click for Price
Great White 14mm 79.6 Click for Price
Predator Victory (Medium) 14mm 79.8 Click for Price
G2 (Medium) 14mm 80.1 Click for Price
Tiger Dynamite 14mm 80.8 Click for Price
Morakami (Medium) 14mm 81.3 Click for Price
Tiger Laminated (Hard) 14mm 81.7 Click for Price
Da Vinci (Hard) 14mm 81.9 Click for Price
Talisman Water Buffalo (Medium) 14mm 82.0 Click for Price
Kamui II (Medium Soft) 14mm 82.2 Click for Price
Stingray 14mm 82.6 Not Available
Talisman Water Buffalo (Hard) 14mm 83.2 Click for Price
Tweeten Virgin 12.5mm 83.3 Click for Price
Kamui II (Medium) 14mm 83.4 Click for Price
Talisman Pro (Medium) 14mm 83.5 Click for Price
Fuji (Hard) 14mm 83.8 Click for Price
Predator Victory (Hard) 14mm 84.3 Click for Price
Moori (Hard) 14mm 84.4 Click for Price
Talisman Pro (Hard) 14mm 84.4 Click for Price
Hirano (Medium) 14mm 84.8 Click for Price
Kamui Black (Hard) 14mm 84.8 Click for Price
G2 (Hard) 14mm 85.5 Click for Price
Aramith Laminated (Hard) 14mm 86.6 Click for Price
Scorpion 14mm 86.8 Click for Price
Zan (Hard) 14mm 87.4 Click for Price
Morakami (Hard) 14mm 87.5 Click for Price
Le Pro* 10-14mm 88.2 Click for Price
Black Heart (Hard) 14mm 88.2 Click for Price
WB Water Buffalo 13-14mm 88.2 Click for Price
Talisman Pro (Extra Hard) 14mm 88.7 Click for Price
Blue Elf (Hard) 14mm 90.4 Click for Price
Hirano (Hard) 14mm 90.6 Click for Price
Triangle 12-14mm 91.0 Click for Price
Triumph 14mm 92.0 Click for Price
Kamui II (Hard) 14mm 92.2 Click for Price
Samsara Jump Break 14mm 95.5 Click for Price
Tiger Jump 14mm Phenolic Click for Price
Mezz Ignot 14mm Phenolic Click for Price
 
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Made also some durometer testings.

I recommend a durometer type D with a device.

Just my 2 cents.
Olaf
 
cuetips1000 said:
I recommend a durometer type D with a device.

Olaf
Click to expand...


Very interesting. Could you expand on that a bit?
I see that the type A measurements fall at the upper limit of the 0-100 range. I guess I would prefer to measure something in the middle of the instrument's range if possible. Olaf, where do your measurements fall on the Shore D scale for some common tips?

PoolDog did a hell of a job here with his work. It's the most complete list I've seen of tip Shore hardness. I never took time to study it before.

Robin Snyder
 
carguy said:
Very interesting. Could you expand on that a bit?
I see that the type A measurements fall at the upper limit of the 0-100 range. I guess I would prefer to measure something in the middle of the instrument's range if possible. Olaf, where do your measurements fall on the Shore D scale for some common tips?

PoolDog did a hell of a job here with his work. It's the most complete list I've seen of tip Shore hardness. I never took time to study it before.

Robin Snyder
Click to expand...

Yes, type A measurements fall at the upper limit of the 0-100 range. All measurements near the 100 become inaccurate.
Shore D hardness measurements of (leather) cue tips falling in the upper third of the Shore D Scale. Here is a video with Chandivert tips (joke included at 2.29 min):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvLCqiiBmWE

Yes bruppert, i mean a test stand. BTW: The Ebay offer has a keen and fair price.

Olaf
 
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The issue I had with the type A was the force of the spring was not really strong enough to create much in the way of difference between testing tips that I knew to be 10 points apart on the shore D... Take for instance the Triangle listed on the A chart at 91... That reading is a function of the leather fiber tightness and not tip hardness... Triangles do not test harder than the Kamui Black hard on the shore D in my experience.......
 
I am not familiar with Durometers by any means, But it seems to me that to test a cue tip for hardness would mean measuring the force and the amount of compression = hardness. But using a wedge or point on soft materials that can easily be split or separated laterally would not be the best way in my opinion. I would like to see what the results would be in comparison using a small flat faced pin instead of a point wedging the fibers apart.
 
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