Dynasphere Bronze balls......$100

Thanks for your suggestions.
The pockets have a new, undamaged curtain of leather from top to bottom.
Yesterday I lined up on the red circle of the ball that is in excellent condition and hit a hard draw shot.
There was a scuff mark right where the tip struck the CB.
I've ruled out the balls.
I don't know what else to try but I will swap chalk for the first test.
I've just been too busy to get to the table since then.
I recall someone on AzB getting mystery marks on their balls and it would up being a screw head in the ball return track on their Diamond table.
Good question...

Pro Am is a ball return table? Very well could be something in there. Screw head or something.
 
I had a weird dream last night (seriously), that my Aramith balls, started breaking apart, so I bought a $100 set of Dynasphere balls to replace them.

Does that mean I spend too much time on this forum, and thinking about pool?
 
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I just got done cleaning (9) Dynaspheres Bronze sets for my buddy who runs the Mezz LA 9 Ball Series and the Los Angeles BCA Poolplayers League. These balls were very, very dirty and get used weekly for league play, monthly for the Mezz LA 9 Ball event. They don't get cleaned very often but they had zero scuffs, scratches or nicks and have been in service for over a year. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: best value in pool.

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I just got done cleaning (9) Dynaspheres Bronze sets for my buddy who runs the Mezz LA 9 Ball Series and the Los Angeles BCA Poolplayers League. These balls were very, very dirty and get used weekly for league play, monthly for the Mezz LA 9 Ball event. They don't get cleaned very often but they had zero scuffs, scratches or nicks and have been in service for over a year. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: best value in pool.

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Great pic!
 
What is the strangest part of all of this is that everybody else who has Dynasphere pool balls do not have a problem, but you do. It does suggest to me that you have a unique problem with something about your pool table or cue tip. Does your table have a return on it or is it basket pockets? Phenolic balls are very durable, but not indestructible.
 
Thanks for your suggestions.
The pockets have a new, undamaged curtain of leather from top to bottom.
Yesterday I lined up on the red circle of the ball that is in excellent condition and hit a hard draw shot.
There was a scuff mark right where the tip struck the CB.
I've ruled out the balls.
I don't know what else to try but I will swap chalk for the first test.
I've just been too busy to get to the table since then.
Maybe the layered tip leaving glue marks on the ball , it happened to me a lot when I used them on my home very clean Carom balls,
 
Maybe the layered tip leaving glue marks on the ball , it happened to me a lot when I used them on my home very clean Carom balls,
Any suggestions on what to use to clean the balls if glue is indeed the culprit?
I did find this lying beside the rubber at the bottom of a corner pocket. Appears to be too small to cause the scuff marks but who knows...
 

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Any suggestions on what to use to clean the balls if glue is indeed the culprit?
I did find this lying beside the rubber at the bottom of a corner pocket. Appears to be too small to cause the scuff marks but who knows...
Not too small to damage a ball.
 
Not too small to damage a ball.
no shit. more than big enough. i think most everyone in this thread knows that its not the balls at fault here. anything metallic(that doodad looks metallic) would scar a ball. Tack/nail heads, screws would all do any phenolic ball harm.
 
no shit. more than big enough. i think most everyone in this thread knows that its not the balls at fault here. anything metallic(that doodad looks metallic) would scar a ball. Tack/nail heads, screws would all do any phenolic ball harm.
No shit. I think anyone who looked at the object and could see the scuff mark on the ball could see this is not large enough to cause the mark. Try as I might, I cannot take a quality pic of the scuff marks with my phone. Also, the CB never went into that pocket and therefore never touched this metal object. I stated above that I ruled out the balls being at fault. I already determined the scuff was made by the tip/chalk and it made a similar mark on a red circle CB after a power draw stroke. Someone suggested that the scuff may actually be a mark from the glue between the layers of the tip. I asked for suggestions on a cleaner that will remove glue and not damage the balls.
 
No shit. I think anyone who looked at the object and could see the scuff mark on the ball could see this is not large enough to cause the mark. Try as I might, I cannot take a quality pic of the scuff marks with my phone. Also, the CB never went into that pocket and therefore never touched this metal object. I stated above that I ruled out the balls being at fault. I already determined the scuff was made by the tip/chalk and it made a similar mark on a red circle CB after a power draw stroke. Someone suggested that the scuff may actually be a mark from the glue between the layers of the tip. I asked for suggestions on a cleaner that will remove glue and not damage the balls.
You should be able to tell pretty easily if it is something foreign on top of the surface of the ball or a blemish below the surface of the ball. Glue transfer (not likely, IMO) will be on the surface. A nick, scratch or gouge will be below. The only ball damage I've ever seen from a cue tip is from a phenolic break tip on a break shot. I have a hard time wrapping my head around chalk being abrasive enough to damage phenolic. Phenolic is a pretty hard material. If there are "chalk scratches" on the balls, I would think Aramith Restorer or some thing like Meguiar's Ultimate Polish would remove the fine scratches.
 
You should be able to tell pretty easily if it is something foreign on top of the surface of the ball or a blemish below the surface of the ball. Glue transfer (not likely, IMO) will be on the surface. A nick, scratch or gouge will be below. The only ball damage I've ever seen from a cue tip is from a phenolic break tip on a break shot. I have a hard time wrapping my head around chalk being abrasive enough to damage phenolic. Phenolic is a pretty hard material. If there are "chalk scratches" on the balls, I would think Aramith Restorer or some thing like Meguiar's Ultimate Polish would remove the fine scratches.
chalk can't scratch phenolic. if it could you'd see it all the time. Phenolic is HARD.
 
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I will add again: I cleaned 9 sets of these balls over the weekend. Most of them had to be cleaned first by hand before running them through the machine as I did not want to over run the motor on my unit so I got a pretty close inspection of them. There were zero blemishes on the object balls and few on some of the cue balls with what appeared to be from contact with phenolic break tips. They've been in service in a commercial environment on a weekly basis for league and on a monthly basis for a 32 player tournament. They have been exposed to several different types of chalk and cue tips. IMO, this is something caused by abusing the balls, i.e., hitting the object balls at break speed with a phenolic break tip or something unique to your table causing the marks. One more question. Do you have concrete flooring in your pool room? If so, have any balls made contact with the floor?
 
chalk can't scratch phenolic. if it could you'd see it all the time. Phenolic is HARD.
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My only thought is that a foreign contaminant got in that piece of chalk or buried in that tip. Perhaps a piece of material from a scuffer, who knows. I have made no new scuffs after switching to a different piece of chalk. I've put maybe 3 hours of play on this set and no new scuffs have appeared. Under magnification, the scuffs look like a tiny wolverine swiped at the ball. The spot is larger than the tiny metal object I found.

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No, its al carpet and the balls were only used for an hour or less before I noticed the marks. No balls went off the table.
My jump cue is the only cue I own with a phenolic tip. I have not jumped a ball on this table as of yet.
My working theory is there was something on the tip that didn't belong, and is now gone.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
 
well solved, it was something in the chalk. or even possibly from your tip and it wore off.

you really should have changed cue sticks first and then chalk. long before you got here with the problem. since you had already narrowed down where it had to be coming from.

most marks on balls come from the leather in the pockets having some dye or polish on them. or metal things used to hold things in place done by a bad installer.
 
well solved, it was something in the chalk. or even possibly from your tip and it wore off.

you really should have changed cue sticks first and then chalk. long before you got here with the problem. since you had already narrowed down where it had to be coming from.

most marks on balls come from the leather in the pockets having some dye or polish on them. or metal things used to hold things in place done by a bad installer.
I edited my original post a while ago so people do not read the issue I had and mistake the balls as the problem. Still don't know what it was but it's not happening anymore so I'm happy. Thanks to everyone who contributed positively, to help me try to find the problem.
 
I posted earlier that I bought some dinasphere bronze pool balls. The balls they are replacing are probably the original that came with the table, because they are yellowed and fading a bit, but the real interesting aspect is that the original set is about .015 of an inch less in diameter then the new dynasphere balls. I was wondering if pool balls wear down that much through time or that was the original diameter they were manufactured at?
 
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