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Benelli said:
There is no Silicone in Griot's.

And multiple pool ball collectors, myself included, use some type of speed shine for cleaning and restoring balls.
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To be played with or displayed? I know Meguiar’s and Adam’s quick detailers contain silicone. It makes them look pretty but makes them far too slick to play. Same with car wax. I’ve heard good things about Brillianzine but have never used it personally.
 
polishing balls for looks is one thing. but when you polish balls you have changed the way they will play from before you polished them.

so you have made the statement that before polishing they needed to play differently, or were playing badly because of dirt on the balls.
and just removing the dirt was not enough.

i grant balls get dirty and need some factor of cleaning. but putting a polish on them that was not there when you bought them really needs justification before doing that.
 
sbrownn said:
would you use Griot's speed shine (have some now in the garage and going to play in about 30 minutes) or would you use some brillianize instead (can pick some up tomorrow at local TAP Plastics)?
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I have Griot's on Amazon Subscribe and Save, I get a bottle every two months like clockwork.

I use it both alone to lightly clean a set and in conjunction with Aramith Restore and Cleaner depending on how dirty and gross the new set I'm cleaning is.

In the Pool Ball Collecting thread, there are two great posts by one of the bigger collectors in the space and he also uses Speedshine as part of his cleaning routine. If you follow his regimen as laid out in the thread you will see great results and your forearms will be as big as Popeye...
rexus31 said:
To be played with or displayed? I know Meguiar’s and Adam’s quick detailers contain silicone. It makes them look pretty but makes them far too slick to play. Same with car wax. I’ve heard good things about Brillianzine but have never used it personally.
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Both, I use it as less invasive lite clean after I have had a set of balls on the table for three or four weeks straight. And for the bigger jobs, I will wet the microfiber with it when I'm using Cleaner or Restorer on newly acquired balls.

The amount of nicotine I'm able to get off some of my mid-70s ball sets with just the Griot's is impressive. So I like to start there and see what comes off before grabbing one of the Aramith bottles that have abrasives.

And you are 100% correct everyone needs a ball polisher, I'm hoping to buy a double-platter Diamond next year...
 
a five gallon bucket lined with carpet and a polisher inside in in the bottom works as well as anything and only costs 30 bucks to make in about a half hour
 
maha said:
polishing balls for looks is one thing. but when you polish balls you have changed the way they will play from before you polished them.

so you have made the statement that before polishing they needed to play differently, or were playing badly because of dirt on the balls.
and just removing the dirt was not enough.

i grant balls get dirty and need some factor of cleaning. but putting a polish on them that was not there when you bought them really needs justification before doing that.
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Balls are polished from the factory. Usually, they are shiny, not slick. I’ve switched to using a mixture of Aramith Cleaning Solution and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol. This cleans the balls well, makes them shine but doesn’t make them slick. They feel very much like a brand new, out of the box set.
 
maha said:
a five gallon bucket lined with carpet and a polisher inside in in the bottom works as well as anything and only costs 30 bucks to make in about a half hour
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It works okay but its not as effective as a purpose built professional unit. Especially one designed to spiral the balls.
 
rexus31 said:
Balls are polished from the factory. Usually, they are shiny, not slick. I’ve switched to using a mixture of Aramith Cleaning Solution and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol. This cleans the balls well, makes them shine but doesn’t make them slick. They feel very much like a brand new, out of the box set.
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Have you ever tried mixing the Isopropyl with restorer for really dirty or older ball sets?

Not sure if the stronger abrasive content would really help de-grunging older balls sets
 
Benelli said:
Have you ever tried mixing the Isopropyl with restorer for really dirty or older ball sets?

Not sure if the stronger abrasive content would really help de-grunging older balls sets
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I have not. I usually do grungy sets by hand first as I don't want to saturate the cleaning pads on my machine with dirt and grime.
 
Benelli said:
I have Griot's on Amazon Subscribe and Save, I get a bottle every two months like clockwork.

I use it both alone to lightly clean a set and in conjunction with Aramith Restore and Cleaner depending on how dirty and gross the new set I'm cleaning is.

In the Pool Ball Collecting thread, there are two great posts by one of the bigger collectors in the space and he also uses Speedshine as part of his cleaning routine. If you follow his regimen as laid out in the thread you will see great results and your forearms will be as big as Popeye...

Both, I use it as less invasive lite clean after I have had a set of balls on the table for three or four weeks straight. And for the bigger jobs, I will wet the microfiber with it when I'm using Cleaner or Restorer on newly acquired balls.

The amount of nicotine I'm able to get off some of my mid-70s ball sets with just the Griot's is impressive. So I like to start there and see what comes off before grabbing one of the Aramith bottles that have abrasives.

And you are 100% correct everyone needs a ball polisher, I'm hoping to buy a double-platter Diamond next year...
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I think I am going to try the Griot's speed shine first and then finish with the Brillianize as I am concerned the speed shine might leave a little residue on the balls as this is a playing set.
 
sbrownn said:
I think I am going to try the Griot's speed shine first and then finish with the Brillianize as I am concerned the speed shine might leave a little residue on the balls as this is a playing set.
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So for playing balls, I use just a quarter of a squirt from the bottle on the ball nestled in white micofiber that is already damp with Griot's. Clean vigorously and then dry it with a different white microfiber and then onto a ball tray.

I always let the set to rest overnight to make sure their completely dry and then right back on the table.

I'm not sure you need the Brillianize at all but I guess you can try it if you want.
 
sbrownn said:
I think I am going to try the Griot's speed shine first and then finish with the Brillianize as I am concerned the speed shine might leave a little residue on the balls as this is a playing set.
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Too much silicone here brother. A little is one thing but using these together is too much. Brillianize has a very small amount and works good. No silicone is best but a small amt. doesn't make balls play much different. Some people obsess over this stuff. Not sure just how many players could tell diff. in a un-siliconed set and one with a small amount. I've hit balls treated with Brillianize and they played fine, no weird reactions off other balls or the cushions.
 
sbrownn said:
every report I've seen is the Griot's Speed Shine doe not have silicone in it...
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It has a variant of Silicone called Dimethicone, which is used in shampoo, cosmetics, and speed shine. So Garczar is correct, to a point.

Aramith cleaner and restore have wax in them that creates the same effect as the Dimethicone.

But I'm not as much of a "ball action" connoisseur as Garczar so I have never noticed a significant difference in play. ;)
 
sbrownn said:
every report I've seen is the Griot's Speed Shine doe not have silicone in it...
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read the ingredient list. as Benelli said it has dimethicone which is a silicone-laced compound. any time you see 'super slippery' in the desc. you can bet its got silicone in it.
 
Benelli said:
It has a variant of Silicone called Dimethicone, which is used in shampoo, cosmetics, and speed shine. So Garczar is correct, to a point.

Aramith cleaner and restore have wax in them that creates the same effect as the Dimethicone.

But I'm not as much of a "ball action" connoisseur as Garczar so I have never noticed a significant difference in play. ;)
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Clean a set with Aramith and then use a hi-silicone on another. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference in play. I am a connoisseur tho, of all kinds of shit. ;)
 
Benelli said:
It has a variant of Silicone called Dimethicone, which is used in shampoo, cosmetics, and speed shine. So Garczar is correct, to a point.

Aramith cleaner and restore have wax in them that creates the same effect as the Dimethicone.

But I'm not as much of a "ball action" connoisseur as Garczar so I have never noticed a significant difference in play. ;)
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I can attest, there is absolutely a difference in play with balls being cleaned/polished with Meguiar's Cleaner Wax. A room down the street uses that stuff in their Diamond polisher and the ball are VERY slick fresh out of the machine and they play goofy for about an hour. They slide off the rail, do not throw properly and roll much further than normal. A waxed cueball is fun too. Monster draw shots without the monster stroke. This is why I'm a fan of the Aramith Ball Cleaner/Isopropyl alcohol mixture. The balls look great and play great. Wax and silicone should be avoided as mush as possible if you plan to use the balls for their intended purpose.
 
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