Dynasphere Challenger set.

garczar said:
Cyclop balls had a few issues the first year or so. They made corrections and after that they were fine and played great. BTW, has it EVER occurred to you that maybe Aramith's are over priced? They had the ball market to themselves for years and now some real competition. If you like paying more than you have to for top quality no one's stopping you.
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Whatever the market will bear.
 
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Frosty said:
Nothing from nothing, but as YOU are the one selling them, I imagine you don’t want that point to considered a red flag. I’m sure to the average banger they won’t notice the difference in play anyway.

What you describe is similar to how those crappy Cyclops balls from China play. Bottom line, Aramith is the standard of the industry and if your balls “play differently” from that standard, I find that a red flag, irrelevant of “excellent value”. As I said in my initial post, cheaper will always be popular with some. To me, it makes an old adage spring to mind, you get what you pay for.
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I'm a dealer. I sell everything, including Aramith balls. I'm not pushing sales on Dynasphere balls, as I really don't care. I bought a fairly large stock of them, to include with new table sales. If people want to buy them separately, I'm happy to sell them. But, I really don't need to sell them, nor do I care if I do. I only offered them to folks here, as it seems that most online retailers have been out of stock.

My opinions are based on my own experience, and have absolutely nothing to do with selling product. I'm a long-tenured member here. Most know that my integrity means more to me than pushing a quick sale.
 
garczar said:
Cyclop balls had a few issues the first year or so. They made corrections and after that they were fine and played great. BTW, has it EVER occurred to you that maybe Aramith's are over priced? They had the ball market to themselves for years and now some real competition. If you like paying more than you have to for top quality no one's stopping you.
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Yeah they are overpriced, fortunately I have access to them at a far more reasonable price through a friend in the industry. I get that the value of other sets such as these Dynasphere’s makes the potential differences in playability a worthwhile trade off and option for some. As you said to me Gar, if that makes it worth it for you, then have at it.

Most of us here are in the twilight of our lives and I’m no different. But being as such, I only have so many games left and I choose the extra expenditure. Life’s short, treat yourself, if you can, that’s my theory anyway.
 
bradsh98 said:
I'm a dealer. I sell everything, including Aramith balls. I'm not pushing sales on Dynasphere balls, as I really don't care. I bought a fairly large stock of them, to include with new table sales. If people want to buy them separately, I'm happy to sell them. But, I really don't need to sell them, nor do I care if I do. I only offered them to folks here, as it seems that most online retailers have been out of stock.

My opinions are based on my own experience, and have absolutely nothing to do with selling product. I'm a long-tenured member here. Most know that my integrity means more to me than pushing a quick sale.
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I for one, certainly appreciate the deal you gave me on the Dynas!!
Probly be the last set I buy. Good to know they'll outlast me, no matter how badly I treat them.
 
I have one of the older entry-level Dynaspheres sets (I think it was called the Bronze series before they renamed everything), along with one of their red-dot cue balls because the original set only came with the single black-dot/triangle cue ball, and I prefer having more dots.

I've been really impressed with both the ball set and the cue ball. The quality and durability have been excellent. That red-dot cue ball has flown off the table onto a concrete floor more than a dozen times, and it's still perfectly fine. A quick clean and polish, and it looks brand new.

I can't access the Dynaspheres website right now, but looking at Seybert's, I see they now have 10+ pool ball sets and 5+ cue balls. Do they really need that many products?

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I think the average buyer is just going to get confused. Serious home players will probably buy a mid- or high-end set anyway, while pool room owners may not know which model best fits their needs. They should take a lesson from Aramith—or even Microsoft—when it comes to product naming. Make it obvious who each product is for.

- Dynaspheres Pro Tour TV – Flagship set for TV, professional events, and tournaments. (Think Microsoft Windows Enterprise.) $300+
- Dynaspheres Poolroom Pro – Built for commercial pool rooms where durability is the priority. (Windows Business/Pro.) $200+
- Dynaspheres Home – A quality set for home table owners. (Windows Home.) $100+

Then offer three cue ball options that match those product tiers for players who want to experiment. Maybe 1 more Dynaspheres Basic ($49.99) – A budget set for casual players or decorative furniture-style pool tables that cost $10K+ lol.

One last thought: the moment Chinese manufacturers figure out how to market and sell directly to U.S. and European consumers with simple branding and distribution (They are already no. 1 of making products), it's going to be a game over for 99.99% of American and European companies.
 
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