Efren aims.....

BlowFish said:
Does anyone notice that Efren Reyes aims with his right eye. The cue is placed on the right side of his face in line with his right-eye.

Any other Pro players do this?
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I dunno if it matters but Efren's right elbow is cocked a little towards his body and his wrist is cocked a little towards his body as well.
He does look a little odd.
But, I dunno anyone who shoots as smooth as Efren with that release the cue stroke. :D
Buddy Hall and Davenport are two other players I love to watch.
 
vapoolplayer said:
the ones that actually deal with pool and instruction, get a couple hundred views and maybe 20 responses.
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You can only say so much to a question like "what is the best tip?", or, "what kind of cue should I buy?". :cool:
 
Jimmy M. said:
You can only say so much to a question like "what is the best tip?", or, "what kind of cue should I buy?". :cool:
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Jimmy, you forgot"should I use my left brain, my right brian, my neighbors brain or no brains?" :p


Eric
 
Cliff Joyner.

BlowFish said:
Does anyone notice that Efren Reyes aims with his right eye. The cue is placed on the right side of his face in line with his right-eye.

Any other Pro players do this?
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recoveryjones said:
ps. Come on JR, get this thread a rockin....LOL
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I really had decided not to argue on here anymore. Nobody seems to understand that I'm always right, anyone that agrees with me is right and if you don't agree with me, your wrong. My wife understands this.

So I'm not going to get this thread rocking. However, "Some players shift their eyes to sight through different areas of the cue ball" WOW. I thought I had heard it all. LOL

You ask for it rj
 
CaptainJR said:
Nobody seems to understand that I'm always right, anyone that agrees with me is right and if you don't agree with me, your wrong. My wife understands this.
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does she know you're typing that? LOL

CaptainJR said:
So I'm not going to get this thread rocking. However, "Some players shift their eyes to sight through different areas of the cue ball" WOW. I thought I had heard it all. LOL

You ask for it rj
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and just to chime in on the flame war starting, watch some of the top players, you'll notice that their head is in a slightly different postion for different shots...........there's a reason for it.

let the games begin

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
does she know you're typing that? LOL



and just to chime in on the flame war starting, watch some of the top players, you'll notice that their head is in a slightly different postion for different shots...........there's a reason for it.

let the games begin

VAP
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If you REALLY want to start a flame war, you could always ask whether or not their cue alignment is "correct".
 
Jimmy M. said:
If you REALLY want to start a flame war, you could always ask whether or not their cue alignment is "correct".
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one war at a time please, that one's in my back pocket for when this thead starts dieing down............ :D

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
does she know you're typing that? LOL



and just to chime in on the flame war starting, watch some of the top players, you'll notice that their head is in a slightly different postion for different shots...........there's a reason for it.

let the games begin

VAP
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A. She may not know I typed it, but if she did, she'd know I was right. :D


B. I understand that completely. Right after I miss a shot my teacher often says, 'It didn't look like you had your chin centered on the stick that shot'.
 
CaptainJR said:
B. I understand that completely. Right after I miss a shot my teacher often says, 'It didn't look like you had your chin centered on the stick that shot'.
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thats because you and your teacher use an aiming method that requires you to be centered on the stick, not all methods require this.

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
thats because you and your teacher use an aiming method that requires you to be centered on the stick, not all methods require this.

VAP
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What is the main problem with jacking up that makes shots that you have to jack up the stick so difficult? You can't get centered over the stick. Or to your center of the stick.

What is the purpose of a pre-shot routine? So that you can aim and stoke the ball consistently. That means consistently put your head in the same spot. You start moving your head around and your stoke is going to be effected. Not might be, will be effected.
 
CaptainJR said:
What is the main problem with jacking up that makes shots that you have to jack up the stick so difficult? You can't get centered over the stick. Or to your center of the stick..
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wouldn't know, this is actually one area i've never had much of a problem with. the secret to this (for me anyway) is to line the shot up, and once you have it lined up, it is one of the few shots you focus on the cue ball last, making sure you strike it as intended. the MAIN reason for missing jacked up shots isn't the alignment, its not hitting the cue ball as intended because your bridge hand is more prone to movement than a normal bridge.

CaptainJR said:
What is the purpose of a pre-shot routine? So that you can aim and stoke the ball consistently. That means consistently put your head in the same spot. You start moving your head around and your stoke is going to be effected. Not might be, will be effected.
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you're right here.........somewhat...........if i put my head in the same spot for a 30 degree cut..........and then put my head in a different spot for a 60 degree cut..........but i'm putting my head in the EXACT same spot each time i face that angle..........isn't that consistent?

i'm consistently using the exact same pre-shot routine for the prescribed shot.

someone didn't turn you into a "cookie cutter" player did they?

VAP
 
Try this...

focus on an object accross the room.

touch your index finger to your thumb to create a circle.

center the object within the circle.

close each eye one at a time.

Are you left or right eye dominant?
 
jason said:
Try this...

focus on an object accross the room.

touch your index finger to your thumb to create a circle.

center the object within the circle.

close each eye one at a time.

Are you left or right eye dominant?
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no offense, but that has nothing to do with what i'm talking about.........

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
wouldn't know, this is actually one area i've never had much of a problem with. the secret to this (for me anyway) is to line the shot up, and once you have it lined up, it is one of the few shots you focus on the cue ball last, making sure you strike it as intended. the MAIN reason for missing jacked up shots isn't the alignment, its not hitting the cue ball as intended because your bridge hand is more prone to movement than a normal bridge.



you're right here.........somewhat...........if i put my head in the same spot for a 30 degree cut..........and then put my head in a different spot for a 60 degree cut..........but i'm putting my head in the EXACT same spot each time i face that angle..........isn't that consistent?

i'm consistently using the exact same pre-shot routine for the prescribed shot.

someone didn't turn you into a "cookie cutter" player did they?

VAP
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I give up. I really did mean it when I said I wasn't going to argue on here anymore, because I do know I have this problem with thinking I'm never wrong. Which of course is bull shit.

It is certainly obvious that I'm wrong this time because at least some people do use this king of thing for aiming. And if it works for them, wonderful!

I'll finish my precipitation in this kind of 'aiming' discussion with this BIG 'HOWEVER'.

Some time ago in another thread, there was posted link to an article where several Pros talked about how they aim. None of them said anything about any 'off the wall, outside the box' type aiming system. So as far as the original statement in this thread of something like, 'have you ever noticed the pros positioning the head differently on different shots?' No I haven't and I'm fairly sure they don't. Not on purpose anyway.

So If your using something like this and it is helping you, fine. But if you want to get to the top of your game, I think it would be a good idea to try to eventually get back into the box.
 
CaptainJR said:
I give up. I really did mean it when I said I wasn't going to argue on here anymore, because I do know I have this problem with thinking I'm never wrong. Which of course is bull shit.

It is certainly obvious that I'm wrong this time because at least some people do use this king of thing for aiming. And if it works for them, wonderful!

I'll finish my precipitation in this kind of 'aiming' discussion with this BIG 'HOWEVER'.

Some time ago in another thread, there was posted link to an article where several Pros talked about how they aim. None of them said anything about any 'off the wall, outside the box' type aiming system. So as far as the original statement in this thread of something like, 'have you ever noticed the pros positioning the head differently on different shots?' No I haven't and I'm fairly sure they don't. Not on purpose anyway.

So If your using something like this and it is helping you, fine. But if you want to get to the top of your game, I think it would be a good idea to try to eventually get back into the box.
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this isn't an arguement captain, its more of a discussion.

in that article you will find that someone at the end said "well there's just some things you don't tell" or something to that effect.

also, on the head positioning, we're talking only enough to overlap the cue ball with the object ball.........you're not talking inches here, where you would see a huge difference in the way someone's head is over there cue.

VAP
 
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