Elkmaster chalk impregnated?
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It's not and never has been.
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For further clarification, since some idiot is going to want to argue.
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For further clarification, since some idiot is going to want to argue.
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What makes you say that? That is, what are you basing that on?
I had thought that they were soaked in a chalk 'brine' type mix. I'm talking about from the manufacturer & not the milk soaking for 'milk duds'.
Best,
Rick
Edit: Sorry I guess Mr. Tucker is the one to ask.
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Is it or isn't it?
Don't know and I'm not about to try to do it to one. It's bad enough my fingers are bluish...
Check my edit.
There are hundreds of threads on AzB regarding the subject.
We all know chalk is an abrasive. The tips are tumbled in chalk after stamping. Tweeten makes Elkmaster tips and Master chalk. What better abrasive to use than the one you make in house?
Yes. That certainly is a good fit but I had thought that they were soaked in a brine type solution & not just tumbled in dust.
Thanks,
Rick
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Chalk is quite pasty. If chalk were dry dust, if would have a difficult time sticking to anything.
Is it or isn't it?
I have never heard this. They are made I believe using Chrome tanning.
Chrome tanning uses a solution of chemicals, acids and salts (including chromium sulphate) to tan the hide.
All hides then come out looking light blue. That may be what leads people to believe they have chalk in them due to the color.
I should have mentioned it's a 14mm tip, so you're going to lose the side coloring and probably most of the top as well. I'm guessing, I haven't used one in a long time.
Yes, I understand.
Until 'recently' I had been using Elk Master & Blue Diamond tips for 4.5 decades & still have some cues with them on them.
If I put one on now, I will get as exactly the size diameter has possible, like a 13 mm for a 12.75 shaft & a 12mm for a 11.75 shaft. I had not been concerned about that in the past.
Thanks again,
Rick
With non-layered tips, it does not matter what size you get, as long as it is larger than the ferrule.
The reason would be to limit trimming & hence keep more of the chalk that has soaked into the perimeter of the tip.
I shoot with much english & chalk before every shot but it was always sort of comforting for 45 years to think that the Elk Master was impregnated with chalk. The pic shows it's only so deep.
It's just a BS thing but I won't put a 14mm on a 11.75mm when I can put a 12mm on it.
Best to All,
Rick
Is it or isn't it?
No, they aren't impregnated with chalk.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=631465&postcount=5
Freddie <~~~ read it somewhere
I don't feel they're chalk impregnated, but there's a shell/skin of chalk on the exterior. More than likely from the tumbling process, as previously mentioned, done as part of manufacturing them. I actually split two tips and they had about the same amount of chalk penetration.
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That thin blue outer coating on the tips, is chalk. Have you ever grabbed a new elkmaster out of the box and gotten it all over your hand? It's Master blue chalk.
If I owned a company that produced two products, which in the end, will work together. If I could, I would definitely use one product in the manufacturing process of the other product.
Tweeten makes Elkmaster tips.
Tweeten makes Master Chalk.
Chalk is an abrasive. It's what grabs the cue ball and ultimately aids in the degradation of your tip.
Tweeten tumbles freshly pressed Elkmaster tips in chalk to smooth out the rough markings of the stamping process.
That's why the entire tip is coated in chalk when straight out of the box.
If an Elkmaster tip had Master chalk embedded into it, it would alter the leather and degrade faster than a normal leather tip. Also, if Elkmaster tips were embedded or impregnated with anything, and they happen to be the most common tips, why don't other manufactured with embedded abrasives?
You are exactly right. I just got off the phone with Skip of Tweeten and the tips are tumbled in chalk dust. They are not impregnated and it can be wiped off but chalk is what it is.That thin blue outer coating on the tips, is chalk. Have you ever grabbed a new elkmaster out of the box and gotten it all over your hand? It's Master blue chalk.
If I owned a company that produced two products, which in the end, will work together. If I could, I would definitely use one product in the manufacturing process of the other product.
Tweeten makes Elkmaster tips.
Tweeten makes Master Chalk.
Chalk is an abrasive. It's what grabs the cue ball and ultimately aids in the degradation of your tip.
Tweeten tumbles freshly pressed Elkmaster tips in chalk to smooth out the rough markings of the stamping process.
That's why the entire tip is coated in chalk when straight out of the box.
If an Elkmaster tip had Master chalk embedded into it, it would alter the leather and degrade faster than a normal leather tip. Also, if Elkmaster tips were embedded or impregnated with anything, and they happen to be the most common tips, why don't other manufactured with embedded abrasives?
He said they started doing it many years ago because there was a popular tip called a Blue Knight and they wanted a tip that had a similar appearance to compete with it. That is all there is to it.
He also told me that one of the most crazy things he hears is the preflag chalk myth. He said there is no difference in the chalk. After 911 they just changed the label to reflect a certain patriotism.
All of a sudden this myth was going around that they had changed the formula. He said every-time he hears this myth or gets a call about it it makes his head spin.
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