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Varsity2016

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well this really good player (A+ player, handicap is a 9 minus 5) has a mcdermott for sale, its a mcdermott cue with an ed young custom shaft, he said he would sell me that cue for $500, he said larry nevel owned that cue for 3 years and then he owned it for a couple years, since im friends with him hes like ill teach u any game u want to learn also, (3 cushion, one pocket, etc.) im thinkin this is a great oppertunity to really fine tune my game and get lessons from a champ, but am i getting ripped off on the cue? since larry nevel owned this cue for 3 years does that do anything to the value of it or no?
 
Purdman's right... some McDermotts are worth WELL more than that, some are worth near nothing. As for Larry Nevell owning it at one time, for me that would make no difference. The main thing is how does the cue work for you, not who did it work for before.

Later,
Bob
 
varsity2016...You are definitely getting ripped off for the cue. I guess you could consider it expensive lessons, with the cue being worth at least half of the $500. The fact that Larry Nevel owned it does nothing to add to the "value", which is a perceived thing anyway. Now, get Larry to autograph the cue, and it might someday have "some" additional value...MAYBE. Pro players go through cues like water, and even cues owned by Efren are not noticibly more valuable, just because he 'owned' them.

Remember, just because this person is a great player, doesn't mean they can teach worth a darn. Maybe so, maybe not...that's for you to figure out. You mentioned a while ago, that you were looking for 'free' help, from someone...just for the love of the game. It doesn't sound to me like this is the deal here...but that's up to you. IMO, anybody who doesn't videotape, while "teaching" someone, isn't worth a hill of beans. You won't be able to remember 10% of what you 'learned', a few days later, let alone a few weeks or months later. But it's your dough...good luck with your decision!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
varsity2016...You are definitely getting ripped off for the cue. I guess you could consider it expensive lessons, with the cue being worth at least half of the $500. The fact that Larry Nevel owned it does nothing to add to the "value", which is a perceived thing anyway. Now, get Larry to autograph the cue, and it might someday have "some" additional value...MAYBE. Pro players go through cues like water, and even cues owned by Efren are not noticibly more valuable, just because he 'owned' them.

Remember, just because this person is a great player, doesn't mean they can teach worth a darn. Maybe so, maybe not...that's for you to figure out. You mentioned a while ago, that you were looking for 'free' help, from someone...just for the love of the game. It doesn't sound to me like this is the deal here...but that's up to you. IMO, anybody who doesn't videotape, while "teaching" someone, isn't worth a hill of beans. You won't be able to remember 10% of what you 'learned', a few days later, let alone a few weeks or months later. But it's your dough...good luck with your decision!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

First, let me say that I am no expert. I'm just a guy who goes through cues like a baby goes through diapers. As a result, you learn some stuff along the way. This is what I've learned.

As for your question, there are some production cues (McDermotts for that matter) that cost well over $500 so it could be a good deal. You would have to research the cue. Find out what the model number is and look it up in any catalog. Or ask around on this site but ask those whose answer you would respect as some sort of knowledgeable source (Bill Grassley, Sean Brown, Joe Van Buren, Erik Lee, etc.). Also, be sure you know what kind of condition the cue is in as well.

If its a good deal, or even a reasonable one, take him up on the offer for the lessons as nothing more than a bonus. In this area, Scott is right. He may be an A+ player but that doesn't mean he can teach worth a darn! If he can, you stand to learn quite a bit.

As far as the Larry Nevel provenance, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who will pay you any more than the value of the cue whether you had his signature on it or not. Nothing against Larry Nevel but the value of a pro's signature on a cue or even its previous ownership is really only worth something to a collector. And not a lot of collectors are looking for pro's cues unless the pro is a legend or an old timer (better yet, an old time legend!).
 
Cane said:
Purdman's right... some McDermotts are worth WELL more than that, some are worth near nothing. As for Larry Nevell owning it at one time, for me that would make no difference. The main thing is how does the cue work for you, not who did it work for before.

Later,
Bob

I don't get either why having a popular famous player's cue would be in any way prestigious to anybody, unless of course the cue was inherently valuable to begin with. Most probably have grease stained butts, green shafts from sweaty palms. Yuck!
 
Get a photo of the butt end of the McDermott in question, and go visit their site; they've got an email listed there where you can send photos of McDermott cues, and someone there will identify it for you and respond via email.

Once you know the model # (and the age) of the cue, you'll be able to better puzzle out the relative value of the cue.
 
Well,

I don't know...there is this idiot Nick posting a "Searing" for sale in the for sale section of AZ. Claims it is a Searing just because Searing added some joint collars and a shaft to a tim scruggs cue.

I suppose using this logic you're McDermott is now an Ed Young cue since Ed made the shaft. In which case, it is now worth at least $2,000. LOL

Doug
 
Varsity - I read your earlier post and I also play at Chris'. Sounds like I shouldn't have stayed home Monday night. I can help you id the McDermott. I have a few old C and D series cues. In regards to Ed's shafts. They hit incredible for me too but I think you can get a new one for $175. I am curious. Who is selling the cue? PM if you prefer discretion. The week before DCC, I passed on the oppportunity to buy a Purpleheart Ed Young from a player in the room. PM me and I'll give you his name and the price he offered. It wasn't much more than your McDermott. If it's still for sale, I recommend grabbing that instead. -jjm
 
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