Eye dominance and undercutting shots.

pw98

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I have a serious problem with undercutting shots. I am cross eye dominant (right handed, left dominant eye).

When I see the shot line it is impossible for me to get the cue on it with orthodoxy and if I aim with orthodoxy what looks like correct aim seems to be probably like 20-25% of the time an undercut. For some cuts I have to place my body way to the right and some cuts I have to place my body way to the left to see the shot line. After doing this I hold my arm out (sometimes my right and sometimes my left) and put the cue on the shot line. Then I shift my body to my stance holding the cue in the same place while shifting my body. On some shots my arm is out as far as it can go and I still undercut the ball like I always have. In that case I found that if I get closer to the table while aiming, and sticking my arm out I can get closer to the shot line without running out of arm length. I have had this undercut aim problem forever and only recently learned that aiming like this helps.

On easy tables the undercutting isn't as big of a problem because the balls still go in most of the time but on a harder table (diamond) I jaw balls left and right because of it. On some shots it seems the table gets in the way while doing this and it is very hard or it seems impossible to get on the correct shot line and having it look correct while lining up with the cue under my dominant eye..

I will start playing on 9 footers again soon and I'm worried that if I'm using all my arm length on my 8.5 footer I will run out of arm length on many more shots on a 9 footer due to the table being in the way and that the longer the shot the further I need to stick my arm out.

Before doing this I would say 95% of my misses were undercuts. And a large portion of my shots down the rail always hit the rail first no matter how hard I tried to overcut them by using a traditional aiming method. I would tell myself 'if you miss this one just make sure you overcut it' and pretty much always undercut it.

I have always been pretty sure this wasn't a stroke issue because on stroke drills shooting long straight in stop and replacement shots I'm pretty consistent at cleanly pocketing balls and getting the cueball to stop in place.

In the past I had to go through every day what I called was 'learning to aim again' where eventually I might start pocketing balls consistently after hours of undercutting (almost) everything. I guess my mind was eventually making some sort of adjustment or I was just getting lucky outs where the shots were all within my aim range on that table.

Has anyone had a similar problem and used a method similar to mine to 'fix' it or found another method that works better?
 
I feel your pain.

I am right handed and left eye dominant and for years struggled with certain angles usually between a half ball to quarter ball hit, as always had tendency to hit too thick and undercut. I am in Scotland and play on the 7ft British tables with really tight pockets, so you have to be super accurate to pot balls.

I watched Dr Dave's video a few years ago about finding your vision centre which helped dramatically, but still felt i took about 15 mins to play myself into this when i hadn't played fore few days.

Recently i found another video which advised on trying a wee trick which the instructor said would help, it has worked like magic for me. I have posted link below.



I found that when following his instructions between 1-3 minute mark, that when i adjusted my stance and moved a couple of inches to left I could pot so much more consistently and it was almost instantaneously. For you it might be that you have to move to right, but give it a try.
 
Sorry, I can’t give you guys any sympathy what so ever.
I think it’s an edge having a very dominate eye...whatever side it’s on.
...and history has shown a fair amount of cross-dominate champions....Willie Mosconi on the pool side..
...Joe Davis on the snooker side.

I think the trick is to FOLLOW your eyes...don’t try to stick them where they don’t belong.
 
Sorry, I can’t give you guys any sympathy what so ever.
I think it’s an edge having a very dominate eye...whatever side it’s on.
...and history has shown a fair amount of cross-dominate champions....Willie Mosconi on the pool side..
...Joe Davis on the snooker side.

I think the trick is to FOLLOW your eyes...don’t try to stick them where they don’t belong.
Not asking for any sympathy lol

Just pointing out issue that i had and possible solution. I do think it is vital that players find their correct vision centre or alignment if they want to be more consistent.
 
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