I remember when Simonis felt first started showing up at pool halls and bars. Back then especially in bars most tables were covered in what they considered a durable product with a high knap.MOst notable aomng those were the Valley bar boxes. I have been away from the game fora number of years. I am aware of the faster cloths popularity today. I am however curious as to how many of the bar boxes still have the old style cloth in the bars today?