For league shooters; Time to cut a player
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Eric. said:The best way to go would be to tell him that the team is breaking up, then start a new team with everyone, minus one
Eric >thinks honesty is best
~wonders if there should be a sarcastic font option up ^^^^ there.
BazookaJoe said:
It is/was a BCA Pool League (now dual sanctioned). The Nationals are non-handicapped, so other teams were bringing stacked teams.
The regional tournaments included teams throughout New England, and we kept coming up short. And it was no surprise where we were coming up short.
Yes, this is still by-and-large a recreational league, and a recreational team, but everyone on our team wants to compete as a team at the best amateur level.
Fred
Thanks for once again completely missing any point, and making up your own story. You don't know what I'm thinking, you don't know why I had to kick off a friend of mine off the team. You don't know what kind of problems he was having and why it was important to get him away from pool and leagues in general.whitewolf said:
Fred
(Edited: I removed the words that may have suggested that I was beyond my normal gruff self)
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I think it's important to remember that a successfull team is made up with people who share a common goal. Some people figure league night is a night out, time to have beers and get together with buddies. Others are very competitive and want to play to the best of thier abilities.
I've found out the hard way that these two ways of thinking often come into conflict. Players that want to succeed and do better put the time in to practice, learn and get better get frustrated when teammates put little or no effort into improving.
At the end of this season I decided it was time to fold my currant team. There were a number of issues that brought this about, but next year I'm starting with a clean slate(new league, new players and new place to play). Me and my co-captian are bringing one other player into our new team along with a couple of players that we know we share common goals with.
Now the future's so bright I have to wear shades.
I've found out the hard way that these two ways of thinking often come into conflict. Players that want to succeed and do better put the time in to practice, learn and get better get frustrated when teammates put little or no effort into improving.
At the end of this season I decided it was time to fold my currant team. There were a number of issues that brought this about, but next year I'm starting with a clean slate(new league, new players and new place to play). Me and my co-captian are bringing one other player into our new team along with a couple of players that we know we share common goals with.
Now the future's so bright I have to wear shades.
pharaoh68 said:
I had an employer say that to me once. My thought "Well, it's personal to me".
I have been both a captain and player on many teams over the past 15 years in several different leagues. I think there is wisdom in all the responses and I agree it is an uncomfortable position to be placed in. I have often wondered though why when a player or players have a problem with a teammate why is it they say nothing and ask the captain to act accordingly for them? Too often times I've seen small things fester because confrontation is simply too difficult for one who then campaigns against another.
I wish you well with the outcome. . .
I wish you well with the outcome. . .
When you don't have an agenda (expectations for the session) for your team it is difficult to explain that there is a problem.
What is your team's goals? Will everyone get to play every nite? are there any set standards you expect from your teammates?
If you want this guy off the team, just tell him that he'd better start looking for another team next year if he wants to play, because he's not adding anything positive to your current team.
At worst, he'll get mad and get beligerent, at best he'll ask how to improve, and maybe stay on the team.
Either way, prepare your response, it always helps to at least remain calm and interested in what he says.
Good luck
What is your team's goals? Will everyone get to play every nite? are there any set standards you expect from your teammates?
If you want this guy off the team, just tell him that he'd better start looking for another team next year if he wants to play, because he's not adding anything positive to your current team.
At worst, he'll get mad and get beligerent, at best he'll ask how to improve, and maybe stay on the team.
Either way, prepare your response, it always helps to at least remain calm and interested in what he says.
Good luck
degenrat said:
The thread was asking about dropping a teammate, to which I responded since I have had a story that might help. That was the point. If you read my post clearly, you can see there's obviously more to the story, but it isn't important to giving advice to the question. If you want to know, I'd be glad to tell you. Just PM me.
Fred
LOL This sounds like me... I was on a team a couple of years ago (I was captain) and did pretty well for the team but I moved away for two years and didn't get to play as much pool as I would have liked. I moved back to the area and rejoined my old team and was kept at the same skill level as when I left. But I can't compete at the same level I did a few years ago. Due to work commitments I can't practice as much as I used to so my game has gone down quite a bit.Cornerman said:
I don't think my team is ready to go to the next level yet, but the last two sessions (at the end of the session), I have asked them if they wanted me to leave due to me just not being able to win. So far they have not taken me up on it, and I think I will turn it around because I really don't feel like I am playing *that* bad. However, I do realize I am a weak link right now and don't want to hold the team back.