Free pool table: what will it require?

Andrew Manning

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So my father-in-law may or may not decide to donate me his 8' Brunswick Centurion. It's generally in good shape, but there are some questions I have about it that I figured someone here could help with.

1) It's across the state, 6.5 hours away by car. If I rent a truck to move it, am I qualified to take it apart myself, or is that a job only for professionals/people with experience?

2) The rails are not very fast; they bank predictably, but the ball loses a lot of speed coming off the rail. Will replacing the rubber fix this, or is there a chance that the problem is not in the rubber? If replacing the rubber will fix it, how much does that cost, assuming I'm looking for good quality cushions? If the problem isn't in the rubber, would it likely go away if I had a professional mechanic reassemble the table?

3) It might need to go in a basement with limited access; there's a flight of stairs leading down to the basement from the outside, but making the turn from the stairs into the basement might be a little tight. Will this be a problem, or require extra disassembly, or increase the cost of having it set up?

4) The pockets are gigantic buckets. If I get a table mechanic to install new rubber along with the table assembly, will that allow me to specify the size of the pockets and the facing angles? I would like to be able to make them fit my exact specifications, would I have flexibility in this, or are there limits, due to the length and shape of the cushions or any other factor? I would want the rails ends and single facings to form the correct pocket openings, rather than using a bunch of shims.

5) What could I expect to pay for:
a) A mechanic to disassemble the table enough to get it into a truck and then back out and down the stairs I mentioned (in SW VA where it meets KY, WV, and TN)?
b) A mechanic to re-assemble the table (in No. VA), including levelling?
c) A mechanic to replace the rubber and tailor the pocket openings to my specifications. Would the price change depending on whether I had this done at the same time as the assembly, or at a separate time?

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate any and all answers/advice. I'm trying to decide if it would be worth it to accept this table, as opposed to ordering a new table with delivery and setup.

-Andrew
 
Moving

Andrew,

I am not a table mechanic but I have moved my table a couple of times and have helped others move theirs. If it is a three peice slate table then it should be disassembled for moving. If you have any mechanical ability the table is not difficult to take apart.
Remove the rails and pockets
Remove all the staples and remove the cloth
The slates are usually screwed down to the frame and the may be covered with bee wax, bondo or plaster so you may need to dig these out before removing the screws.
Care needs to be taken with the slates score a line at the seem and pull one of the end slates away from the middle then the other. Some slates have pins between the slates and these can be damaged or break the slate especially if you lift or try to wrestle with the slate when the pins are engaged.
Lay the slates flat in a pick up truck and strap them together so if they move they are one. You will need at least two guys to move the slates as these are usually hefty. Secure them as best you can in the event they slide around.
Disassemble the frame and load it into the truck you should be ready to go.
Good Luck and congrats on the new table!
 
Bigkahuna said:
Andrew,

I am not a table mechanic but I have moved my table a couple of times and have helped others move theirs. If it is a three peice slate table then it should be disassembled for moving. If you have any mechanical ability the table is not difficult to take apart.
Remove the rails and pockets
Remove all the staples and remove the cloth
The slates are usually screwed down to the frame and the may be covered with bee wax, bondo or plaster so you may need to dig these out before removing the screws.
Care needs to be taken with the slates score a line at the seem and pull one of the end slates away from the middle then the other. Some slates have pins between the slates and these can be damaged or break the slate especially if you lift or try to wrestle with the slate when the pins are engaged.
Lay the slates flat in a pick up truck and strap them together so if they move they are one. You will need at least two guys to move the slates as these are usually hefty. Secure them as best you can in the event they slide around.
Disassemble the frame and load it into the truck you should be ready to go.
Good Luck and congrats on the new table!

Are the bolts that hold all the various components together easy to locate? Also, is the 8" Brunswick Centurion a 3-piece slate?

Thanks for the advice. Does anybody have more answers to some of my other questions from my first post?

Also, don't congratulate me yet, I'm not yet sure whether I'm getting it.

-Andrew
 
the centurion is a o.k table especially for free. it is a very simple table to dismantle w/basic hand tools. we would highly recommend it be reassembled by a professional. it is a 3pc. slate [ not dowelled slate]
once you look under the table the rail bolts are very obvious. a centurion
completely dismantled could go just about anywhere. even with installation,cloth,cushion and extending pockets, you will not be close to
the purchase price of a new one.good luck!
 
scruffy1 said:
the centurion is a o.k table especially for free. it is a very simple table to dismantle w/basic hand tools. we would highly recommend it be reassembled by a professional. it is a 3pc. slate [ not dowelled slate]
once you look under the table the rail bolts are very obvious. a centurion
completely dismantled could go just about anywhere. even with installation,cloth,cushion and extending pockets, you will not be close to
the purchase price of a new one.good luck!

Great, thanks! So just to re-ask the questions I'd still like some input on:

1) The rails are slow. Will replacing the rubber fix this, or is there a chance that the problem is not in the rubber? If replacing the rubber will fix it, how much does that cost, assuming I'm looking for good quality cushions? If the problem isn't in the rubber, would it likely go away when the table is re-assembled (fitting and tightening issue)?

2) The pockets are gigantic buckets. If I get a table mechanic to install new rubber along with the table assembly, will that allow me to specify the size of the pockets and the facing angles? I would like to be able to make them fit my exact specifications, would I have flexibility in this, or are there limits, due to the length and shape of the cushions or any other factor? I would want the rails ends and single facings to form the correct pocket openings, rather than using a bunch of shims.

3) What could I expect to pay for:
a) A mechanic to re-assemble the table in No. VA?
b) A mechanic to re-assemble the table and simultaneously replace the rubber and tailor the pocket openings to my specifications?

-Andrew
 
Properly installed,Good quality cushion with a quality cloth such as simonis and the table
should play fine. When replacing the cushion is definitely the time to
extend the liners to conform to your desired pocket opening. Glen aka
realkingcobra has a excellent post on here about the process. As far as
pricing goes that will vary. in our area 500.00 for a assemble and recover
in 860 simonis. Artemis cushion. 300.+. add labor for installation and extending liners.
 
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scruffy1 said:
Properly installed,Good quality cushion with a quality cloth such as simonis and the table
should play fine. When replacing the cushion is definitely the time to
extend the liners to conform to your desired pocket opening. Glen aka
realkingcobra has a excellent post on here about the process. As far as
pricing goes that will vary. in our area 500.00 for a assemble and recover
in 860 simonis. Artemis cushion. 300.+. add labor for installation and extending liners.

Great, so you're saying it's probably the rubber that makes them play slow, and not a construction problem?

Thanks a lot for your input.

-Andrew
 
Not totally true. construction can definitely play a factor.
but in a newer table like your centurion its going to be cushion, cloth
or improper assembly.Something as simple as loose rail bolts will
make a table play terrible.
 
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