Full Splice Help

[POCKETWOLF]

How would you compare the hit of a full vs half splice? Thanks in advance.

 

[Mc2]

1/2 splice vs full

most full splice cue don't even compare to a half splice cue due to the internal weight distribution.

 

[WilleeCue]

How would you compare the hit of a full vs half splice? Thanks in advance.

What is really relative here is how YOU would compare a full splice cue to a half spliced one.
Why would you even care what someone else thought of the way your cue hit or played?

If you took 50 cues and wrapped the forarms with masking tape, I bet most "experts" could not even tell which was which.

BTY... That has been done with the joints taped up and most players could not tell which was which and preferred the flat face wood to wood joint.

You need to play with your friends cues to find what type YOU prefer and then practice, practice, practice!
10 hours of good practice will do more for your game than any cue on the market can.

Just My Humble Opinion of course.

Willee

 

[JoeyInCali]

I believe more US Open and World titles have been won on short-splice cues than full-splice.

 

[dirtypool40]

What is really relative here is how YOU would compare a full splice cue to a half spliced one.
Why would you even care what someone else thought of the way your cue hit or played?

If you took 50 cues and wrapped the forarms with masking tape, I bet most "experts" could not even tell which was which.

BTY... That has been done with the joints taped up and most players could not tell which was which and preferred the flat face wood to wood joint.

Willee

Well said!!

it's the indian not the arrow, learn to use YOUR arrow.

Harry Richards proved this to me. HE knows how I like a cue to hit, and got me to quit telling him how to get there.

I thought I was an old school, 5/16-14 piloted guy, but he got me to try a Radial, and he made it hit just like I had asked.

Find the hit that works for you, find what you like visually.

Find a guy who can put both in the same cue and get the hell out of his way.

 

[cueman]

How would you compare the hit of a full vs half splice? Thanks in advance.

If both are done well and provide a good balance, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference if taped over as was mentioned earlier.

With that said I will open a can of worms. Many of both types are not done well or balanced correctly and either one could play better than the other from one cue to another. Example would be: If someone puts a really light or really heavy weight wood as the handle in a full splice, it will not balance or feel right. Most bar cue conversions fall into this category. That is why it is better to pick a full splice blank instead of a bar cue, as most bar cues used cheaper lighter weight woods and they don't balance out right.

Now with the regular v-point forearm attached to a handle, if the right gluing and tenon methods are not followed it can have a hollow feel to it. It can be noisy and even buzz. If the right woods and screw combination are not used it will balance bad also. But if it is glued and jointed right with the right wood and screw combination, it can play just as solid as a full splice, or at least 99% as solid. The advantage to the V-point forearm is you can use more wood combinations and create more varity in looks and still balance out right than you can with the full splice. That is it's main advantage.

So with either type of splice you can produce a superior playing cues if done properly, or you can produce inferior playing cues if done wrong.

There are many roads that lead to quality cues.

 

[POCKETWOLF]

What is really relative here is how YOU would compare a full splice cue to a half spliced one.
Why would you even care what someone else thought of the way your cue hit or played?

If you took 50 cues and wrapped the forarms with masking tape, I bet most "experts" could not even tell which was which.

BTY... That has been done with the joints taped up and most players could not tell which was which and preferred the flat face wood to wood joint.

You need to play with your friends cues to find what type YOU prefer and then practice, practice, practice!
10 hours of good practice will do more for your game than any cue on the market can.

Just My Humble Opinion of course.

Willee

Thanks willee, i understand that hit is subjective. I was curious if there was a distinct feel-i.e. stiffer/softer/more or less solid-etc. What are the advantages/disadvantages? Why build a half instead of a full, or why splice at all? Why not use a cored forearm and maintain a solid piece of wood w/recuts, wouldn't that be stronger? I love what i have currently, i was looking to learn a little about splices. thanks

 

[POCKETWOLF]

If both are done well and provide a good balance, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference if taped over as was mentioned earlier.

With that said I will open a can of worms. Many of both types are not done well or balanced correctly and either one could play better than the other from one cue to another. Example would be: If someone puts a really light or really heavy weight wood as the handle in a full splice, it will not balance or feel right. Most bar cue conversions fall into this category. That is why it is better to pick a full splice blank instead of a bar cue, as most bar cues used cheaper lighter weight woods and they don't balance out right.

Now with the regular v-point forearm attached to a handle, if the right gluing and tenon methods are not followed it can have a hollow feel to it. It can be noisy and even buzz. If the right woods and screw combination are not used it will balance bad also. But if it is glued and jointed right with the right wood and screw combination, it can play just as solid as a full splice, or at least 99% as solid. The advantage to the V-point forearm is you can use more wood combinations and create more varity in looks and still balance out right than you can with the full splice. That is it's main advantage.

So with either type of splice you can produce a superior playing cues if done properly, or you can produce inferior playing cues if done wrong.

There are many roads that lead to quality cues.

Thank you chris, very good info:thumbup:.