Fuzzy Balls: Glasses, Contact Lenses, Lasik

buddha162 said:
I have chronically dry eyes and wear contacts, and I always carry a little dispenser of saline solution. I refill them a few times and get a new container.

When I used to use "rewetting drops" specifically for contact lenses, the relief was always temporary and my eyes eventually become more irritated. Saline is natural, and you can use as much as you want w/o worrying about chemical irritation.

-Roger
Well, I like that idea, but how does one do that during a match. I believe I have the contacts curse! My contacts happen to dry out during a middle of a match!
 
Just last year I got contacts for the first time in my life - primarily for pool. Man, what a difference! I love'em - not having to look over the rims of my glasses.

I might consider Lasik at some point, but my eyes really aren't bad (my prescription is -0.75 in both eyes), so it's kinda overkill for me.

I once saw a guy shooting with glasses. His lenses were pretty bulbously tall. But the kicker was, he would take the glasses off, flip'em over, and lay'em back on his head - so that the ends of the arms were sticking UP and the bridge of the glasses, normally at the top of the frames, was now at the BOTTOM, resting on his nose - and the lenses poked up over his eyebrows. It was the most peculiar thing to see. But, it worked for him I suppose. :)
 
tigerallenyim said:
Well, I like that idea, but how does one do that during a match. I believe I have the contacts curse! My contacts happen to dry out during a middle of a match!

I've had so much practice with the eyedropper I can deposit a single droplet of saline on my eye---single handed---while walking, driving (this is cause for some nervous seat-shifting in my passengers), paddling my canoe, riding the subway, and certainly in the middle of a pool match. In fact, my line of sight never leaves the horizontal plane...it's a fine balance of finger pressure and timing, lol.

What does happen when you use an added lubricant (saline, visine, whatever kind) is your body starts to produce less natural tears...and soon you find yourself needing eyedrops every couple of hours. My eyes were too dry to wear contacts w/o the aid of artificial moisture, and of all the products out there saline proves to be the most comfortable and safe...for me.

Remember, practice makes perfect :)

-Roger
 
I have had glasses since I was 10, went through all kinds, big and small, high and low, wide and thin, you name it. I have had soft lense contacts and still do, but find that I also get dry eye when playing. When you are shooting, you do not blink as often, and dry air doesn't help. So, I made the move to get a pair of glasses that work perfect for playing. They are 3/4 of inch tall and 2 inches wide, rimless, with anti-glare. But here is the trick. The glasses are snug to my head and the nose bridge is pretty tight keeping my glasses high on face. The arms are over-bent behing my ears so they do not fall down.

I find that playing with glasses is better than contacts anyway, because what you can't see can't distract you.
 
rackmsuckr said:
Asians have a hard time wearing glasses at the table, since we have no bridges on our noses to hold them up...

I know what you mean about asian noses... hmmm.... LASIK or rhinoplasty?? :D
 
Eyes

I don't think anyone on here has had more problems with their eyes than me. I have 20/1000 vision in left eye and 20/800 in right eye with astigmatism FRONT AND BACK of my eyes, and I have corneal scarring from a pair of hard contacts warping when I was in my 20's(wore them too long - through Navy and college).

I have worn hard contacts since I was 18 (my birthday present) except for 3 years after my corneal scarring when I had to wear glasses.

It had been a long time since going to my eye doctor (same one since the corneal scarring), and I have been to him 5 times in recent weeks. I have to go back at least 1 more time. Prior to going recently, I have been wearing Polycon 2's hard lenses with 20/40 vision (the best I could get).

The doctor has put soft lenses on me, which is a real switch for me, but they have made so many advances with them. At my last visit, I read the 20/25 line with them (both distance, was mono visioned with hard contacts). He monovisioned me with the soft ones for a couple of weeks, but I had a problem with 2 types of shots probably because of my astigmatism. The distance ones seem to have settled in, and I can play pretty good with them. Whenever I have a problem, I assume it is because of my astigmatism, because soft lenses can not correct astigmatism in the back of the eye, only the front, hard lenses correct both types of astigmatism.

I have been getting along with the soft ones pretty well, but do notice a slight dryiness around 1-2 in the morning after being in the poolroom for a few hours, but I am extremely happy with the 20/25 vision.

I have shot with glasses before, so between shooting with hard contacts, soft contacts, and glasses, glasses are the worst by far, for me. The depth perception is different, the balls look different, and I hate glasses anyway (it's a coke bottle thing from when I was a kid). Besides, my vision is only correctable to 20/60-80 with glasses.

I am pretty sure I will adapt to soft contacts okay, and they will be much easier on my scarred corneas, plus I am getting older, and my eyes are not as moist as they used to be.

They have soft contacts with astigmatism correction now for the front of your eye. They have made greats strides in both contacts, and with eye surgeries both. My eye doctor had to special order a soft contact with more curvature for my right eye, and I still have to go back to get fitted for it. Needless to say, I can not have any type of surgery because of my corneal scarring on my eyes.
 
buddha162 said:
I have chronically dry eyes and wear contacts, and I always carry a little dispenser of saline solution. I refill them a few times and get a new container.

When I used to use "rewetting drops" specifically for contact lenses, the relief was always temporary and my eyes eventually become more irritated. Saline is natural, and you can use as much as you want w/o worrying about chemical irritation.

-Roger

WOW you described exactly what happened to me last year. The 14.1 comp was my first event wearing contacts which was a little disturbing. I found they where great for the first 4-6 hours but after that they became extremely uncomfortable and my vision deteriorated badly. I had the drops you mention but that just seemed to make my eyes dry up badly. After 4-5 12 hour days of pool my eyes were on fire, in my last match I actually blinked my contacts out because they were so dry :(

It would recommend contacts over glasses, I spent a little extra and got the 1-Day Acuvue MOIST which are excellent. After the 14.1 event I didn't hit a ball for a month to let my eyes recover and since then I have slowly "broke" my eyes into wearing contacts, I would recommend anyone do this before playing a tournament proper.

I only recently found the Saline solution and it is fantastic, that blink stuff is terrible and I found I was always scooping the solution out of the contact holders instead lol.

In Summary Acuvue MOIST daily with Saline solution drops would probably allow you to play all day and night.

PS
One things for sure I can't shoot for shit now without them! :(
 
buddha162 said:
I've had so much practice with the eyedropper I can deposit a single droplet of saline on my eye---single handed---while walking, driving (this is cause for some nervous seat-shifting in my passengers), paddling my canoe, riding the subway, and certainly in the middle of a pool match. In fact, my line of sight never leaves the horizontal plane...it's a fine balance of finger pressure and timing, lol.

What does happen when you use an added lubricant (saline, visine, whatever kind) is your body starts to produce less natural tears...and soon you find yourself needing eyedrops every couple of hours. My eyes were too dry to wear contacts w/o the aid of artificial moisture, and of all the products out there saline proves to be the most comfortable and safe...for me.

Remember, practice makes perfect :)

-Roger
Thanks.... I'll need to try that.
 
TheOne said:
WOW you described exactly what happened to me last year................
I only recently found the Saline solution and it is fantastic, that blink stuff is terrible and I found I was always scooping the solution out of the contact holders instead lol.

In Summary Acuvue MOIST daily with Saline solution drops would probably allow you to play all day and night.

It's funny because my optometrist in Taiwan immediately recommended saline when he precribed my contacts, yet the doctor here in NJ seems ambivalent towards saline, renue, saying they're all the same thing.

-Roger
 
To anybody out there having troubles with contacts -- don't give up until you've at least tried daily disposables. They're 70% water and never dry out. You don't know they're there, really. And they only cost $1 a day, if you buy online. Yeah, I've got astigmatism, too.

And if you've got lousy vision like mine (somewhere around 20/500) you probably get distortion around the edges with glasses, like I do. I started wearing hard lenses when I was 17, then later switched to gas-perm. Neither were all that comfortable. But disposables are in a different league totally.

Hey, I'd love to get LASIK too ... but until then, I'm OK.
 
Travis Bickle said:
To anybody out there having troubles with contacts -- don't give up until you've at least tried daily disposables. They're 70% water and never dry out. You don't know they're there, really. And they only cost $1 a day, if you buy online. Yeah, I've got astigmatism, too.

And if you've got lousy vision like mine (somewhere around 20/500) you probably get distortion around the edges with glasses, like I do. I started wearing hard lenses when I was 17, then later switched to gas-perm. Neither were all that comfortable. But disposables are in a different league totally.

Hey, I'd love to get LASIK too ... but until then, I'm OK.

I agree they are excellent and it's what I recommended but make no mistake they will dry out if you are competing all day long. Saline is a very good solution though. (sorry couldn't resist ;))
 
ridewiththewind said:
I used to wear contacts when playing, but went back to glasses. Even tho' rooms in our area are now smokeless, you will find that the climate control systems used in many of these places will dry out those contacts pronto...and there is nothing worse while your shooting than dry contacts!!

(snip)

Lisa

Don't worry, Lisa....I'm getting the govt to pull out their guns to stop these killers from using these types of ventilation systems. I have a right to wear my contacts and not have them dry out.:D

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Don't worry, Lisa....I'm getting the govt to pull out their guns to stop these killers from using these types of ventilation systems. I have a right to wear my contacts and not have them dry out.:D

Jeff Livingston

Damn you beat me to it, I was going to lobby them to allow the room OWNERS to pump mustard gas through THEIR ventilation systems too. It's THEIR property and THEIR system they can do whatever they want with it god dam it! :D
 
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I've read use a saline solution for eye drops. I've never done that but what kind do you prefer?

I have ReNu as a multipurpose cleaner. I read Baush & Lamb sensitive eyes is a saline solution that cleans lenses but does not disinfect. It appears rinse them with sensitive eyes then put them in ReNu to disinfect after use.

If I described this correctly would you then rinse them again in the saline solution before putting them back in your eyes. Then use the saline solution as eye drops?

What brand/s do you all use and your method?

Thanks, Rod
 
Rod said:
I've read use a saline solution for eye drops. I've never done that but what kind do you prefer?

I have ReNu as a multipurpose cleaner. I read Baush & Lamb sensitive eyes is a saline solution that cleans lenses but does not disinfect. It appears rinse them with sensitive eyes then put them in ReNu to disinfect after use.

If I described this correctly would you then rinse them again in the saline solution before putting them back in your eyes. Then use the saline solution as eye drops?

What brand/s do you all use and your method?

Thanks, Rod

Does'nt anyone that uses saline have any comments, brands used, method etc?

Rod
 
all i know is that my right contact lens is the wrong prescription for my eye. & i miss the same shot over & over & over again due to this....it really gets me angry to lose on account of bad eyes......
 
Rod said:
What brand/s do you all use and your method?

Thanks, Rod

Hi Rod,

I've used many brands of saline for rinsing contacts and drops, including Renu's Sensitive Eyes. To me, it doesn't make any difference...it's basically 2 ingredients: salt and water, so I don't think it matters what brand you go with.

However, for disinfecting my lenses, I found that the best product is CibaVision's Clear Care no rub solution. A little case with a plastic neutralizer disc comes in the package. It seems to cause the least irritation, and according to a few optometrists they do the best job cleaning debris and protein buildup from your lenses.

I do not flush my lenses with saline when using Clear Care, but I had to when using Renu. Remember that with Clear Care you *must* let the solution neutralize for 6 hours, and never, ever place unneutralized solution in your eye; I've learned that the hard way.

-Roger
 
TheOne said:
I agree they are excellent and it's what I recommended but make no mistake they will dry out if you are competing all day long. Saline is a very good solution though. (sorry couldn't resist ;))

er, sorry, mate ... my eyes must've glazed over by the time I reached your post!

I've been wearing Bausch and Lomb SofLens ... I carry some generic brand rewetting solution in my case, but have used it maybe twice. Never bother to carry it around ordinarily.

I'm surprised you need to build up your wearing time, but maybe you're not as calloused an individual as I am.
 
buddha162 said:
Hi Rod,

I've used many brands of saline for rinsing contacts and drops, including Renu's Sensitive Eyes. To me, it doesn't make any difference...it's basically 2 ingredients: salt and water, so I don't think it matters what brand you go with.

However, for disinfecting my lenses, I found that the best product is CibaVision's Clear Care no rub solution. A little case with a plastic neutralizer disc comes in the package. It seems to cause the least irritation, and according to a few optometrists they do the best job cleaning debris and protein buildup from your lenses.

I do not flush my lenses with saline when using Clear Care, but I had to when using Renu. Remember that with Clear Care you *must* let the solution neutralize for 6 hours, and never, ever place unneutralized solution in your eye; I've learned that the hard way.

-Roger

Thanks Roger, that gives me another option. After a bit of research Clear care sounds like a good option.

Rod
 
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