Gas Prices JUMPED $.08 in 24 Hours

NINEBALLART said:
Anyone think it strange that V.P.Cheny still gets residues from Enron??? Or Bush still has sharers in oil companies???
What's wrong with that. I must of missed that part about making money is bad. Then again I slept through most of my government education.

I know people are complaining about Vice President Cheney's $1.9million tax refund. Did you hear about the part where he donated almost $7million to charity. How much did you give? (I'm speaking in general) Probably just the change from your vehicle to the firefighters or the shriners standing on the corner. That must ammount to a whopping $3. You can say you did your part now.

If the Clampents can make money in Oil why can't President Bush? Don't tell me that if given the opportunity you would not take a seat as an exec on an oil company. If you refuse something like that I'll kiss your bare ass on the Courthouse lawn and give you an hour to draw a crowd.

What about Senator Kerry? Where are the investigations of no-bid contracts to the U.S. Military for Heinz products? Atleast the employees of Haliburton have the guts to drive large trucks through some of the most dangerous places on the planet. They might as well paint a large target on each of those. Their not Union either. Heinz employees are.

Senator Rockefeller. I'm sure he has some connections. After all the Rockefellers at their peak had a net worth of 1trillion dollars (Adjusted for inflation). Yes I said $1,000,000,000,000. Bill Gates is worth about $40billion.
 
What would Teddy K and Kerry do ?

NINEBALLART said:
Anyone think it strange that V.P.Cheny still gets residues from Enron??? Or Bush still has sharers in oil companies???

I think any politician with successful business experiences should be disqualified from running for office. They may be familiar with somebody vaguely connected to their past. Only ball bangers & illeagal aliens should apply for congress.

Elected officials should live like the Dali Llama and be ineligable from owning securities, real estate, Szambotis or fast jet ski's like all other Americans posess. No young chickies on the side either! (??? J/K):D D :p

PS - Very well said Smittie!
 
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smittie1984 said:
I know people are complaining about Vice President Cheney's $1.9million tax refund. Did you hear about the part where he donated almost $7million to charity. How much did you give? (I'm speaking in general) Probably just the change from your vehicle to the firefighters or the shriners standing on the corner. That must ammount to a whopping $3. You can say you did your part now.

Did you hear the part where Cheney got that huge tax refund due to a tax break on charitable gifts in 2005, to encourage folks to donate to Katrina-related charities? Oh, wait - Cheney didn't donate to ANY Katrina-related charities - he just took advantage of that loophole. :P
 
smittie1984 said:
So gas prices are higher than you wanted. Is it going to stop you from buying that Scruggs you want? Or that plasma tv you have been craving for you pool table room. Are you not going to get that gas guzzler you have been wanting? No. Probably not. So gas prices are not as bad as people think. If I can afford it. You can more than likely afford it. Besides. You can save some money by sending your kids to a government school.
Hell, i'm buying a scooter
Also the $400million dollar retirement package. It wasn't for one year. The guy was on Exxon for 12 years and created a $52billion dollar profit. If someone bought you a lottery ticket and won you $52billion dollars you'd probably give them 1billion easy. And you didn't even have to work for it.

If you want to bring gas prices down do this. For the Florida folks. Next time there is a proposal to build Oil rigs off your coast. Show your represenatives you want it. It's not going to hurt your precious tourist industry. People will still take their kids to Disney. And high school spring breakers will still go to Panama City to get drunk and screw. Regardless if they can see an oil platform.
Do you ACTUALLY believe they would lower the price of gas just because they are getting it cheaper. No. they'd most likeley just bust another all time profit record.
Write your congressman and senator that you want to allow Nuclear Plants in your backyard. Yes I said your backyard. If they built one behind my house I wouldn't have a problem. If there is a meltdown I'll be fortunate enough to die quickly. Same goes for refineries. If one blows up can anyone say Hotdog roast?
TVA has several in the Southeast. I have been known to spend summer months boating right next to one of them. Still won't lower gas prices.:confused:
If you really want to bring prices down we need to quit caving in to the anti-capitalist enviromentalist crowd. The United States needs oil. And we can get it from the Middle East which will keep prices unstable. Or we can get it from us.
AND PAY EXACTLY THE SAME PRICES. They'll just find other justifications.
 
Petrol in Australia

We pay about half way between europe and america for gas at $1.35Aus/litre (approx $4.80US a gallon), and the main problem for us is that although we produce enough petrol grade oil for ourselves, none of our oil is suitable for heavy lubricants, so we have to import, and our prices are tied into OPEC's.

Sales of V6 and V8 cars have dropped 15% in the last year, and as Australian car production is ONLY these cars, 1000's of workers have been made redundant.

Australia has HUGE deposits of LPG(liquid petroleum gas) and the price for this is 0.50Aus a litre, so thousands are converting their car to use LPG(at a cost of $2000Aus). If someone in Australia does 10,000 miles a year, they can pay off the installation in under 2 years, especially if they run a V8.

Do you have this option in America?

Daniel;)
 
Captain Dan said:
We pay about half way between europe and america for gas at $1.35Aus/litre (approx $4.80US a gallon), and the main problem for us is that although we produce enough petrol grade oil for ourselves, none of our oil is suitable for heavy lubricants, so we have to import, and our prices are tied into OPEC's.

Sales of V6 and V8 cars have dropped 15% in the last year, and as Australian car production is ONLY these cars, 1000's of workers have been made redundant.

Australia has HUGE deposits of LPG(liquid petroleum gas) and the price for this is 0.50Aus a litre, so thousands are converting their car to use LPG(at a cost of $2000Aus). If someone in Australia does 10,000 miles a year, they can pay off the installation in under 2 years, especially if they run a V8.

Do you have this option in America?

Daniel;)
Regretfully, we do not have this option.
See, for the most part, our country is controlled by oil and pharmaceutical companies, so ideas which save us(the people) money are most often swept under the rug.
 
BazookaJoe said:
AND PAY EXACTLY THE SAME PRICES. They'll just find other justifications.

When the consumer does not have a realistic option of not purchasing something, the laws of supply and demand start to break down.
 
Captain Dan said:
We pay about half way between europe and america for gas at $1.35Aus/litre (approx $4.80US a gallon), and the main problem for us is that although we produce enough petrol grade oil for ourselves, none of our oil is suitable for heavy lubricants, so we have to import, and our prices are tied into OPEC's.

Sales of V6 and V8 cars have dropped 15% in the last year, and as Australian car production is ONLY these cars, 1000's of workers have been made redundant.

Australia has HUGE deposits of LPG(liquid petroleum gas) and the price for this is 0.50Aus a litre, so thousands are converting their car to use LPG(at a cost of $2000Aus). If someone in Australia does 10,000 miles a year, they can pay off the installation in under 2 years, especially if they run a V8.

Do you have this option in America?

Daniel;)

The potential is there. Many warehouse operate LPG powered fork-lift trucks indoors, due to the lower emissions, and possibly lower cost, but I can't say that I've ever seen an LPG powered vehicle on the roads.
 
Chris said:
The potential is there. Many warehouse operate LPG powered fork-lift trucks indoors, due to the lower emissions, and possibly lower cost, but I can't say that I've ever seen an LPG powered vehicle on the roads.

Many of the school busses in our city operate on natural gas.
Steve
 
pooltchr said:
Many of the school busses in our city operate on natural gas.
Steve
What kind of mpg does a natural gas vehicle get?
Or....miles per therm I suppose would be better terminology.
 
Hell, i'm buying a scooter.
-That is good. You and Clark Howard can now go cruising together.


Do you ACTUALLY believe they would lower the price of gas just because they are getting it cheaper. No. they'd most likeley just bust another all time profit record.
-Yes I do. They would have no choice. I would charge $1,000 a move job on a pool table if I could. But competition limits me from doing it and-getting customers. The government doesn't intervine with me either.

TVA has several in the Southeast. I have been known to spend summer months boating right next to one of them. Still won't lower gas prices.
-When's the last time the TVA built one? (I'm sure your refering to Nuclear Plants). Probably not since the Carter administration. Whoa there was a gas crisis there too. Unless you count the Simpsons' Power Plant. Also it seems you can afford a boat. I guess gas prices aren't that bad. I don't have the money to be hitting the lake in a boat.

Gas prices may not fall to $0.90 a gallon. But let the free market go and prices will stablize or quit rising as fast.

As for Cheney not donating to Katrina. I'm sure he is a racist so lets go ahead and throw that card on the table.
 
Double-Dave said:
I live in The Netherlands, here it??s 1.40 euros per liter for regular 95 octane upto 1.50 for 100 octane, that??s about 8-9 bucks a gallon. Life sucks.

I also have heard that the median income in western European countries is alot higher than over here in the US...
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smittie1984 said:
Hell, i'm buying a scooter.
-That is good. You and Clark Howard can now go cruising together.


Do you ACTUALLY believe they would lower the price of gas just because they are getting it cheaper. No. they'd most likeley just bust another all time profit record.
-Yes I do. They would have no choice. I would charge $1,000 a move job on a pool table if I could. But competition limits me from doing it and-getting customers. The government doesn't intervine with me either.

TVA has several in the Southeast. I have been known to spend summer months boating right next to one of them. Still won't lower gas prices.
-When's the last time the TVA built one? (I'm sure your refering to Nuclear Plants). Probably not since the Carter administration. Whoa there was a gas crisis there too. Unless you count the Simpsons' Power Plant. Also it seems you can afford a boat. I guess gas prices aren't that bad. I don't have the money to be hitting the lake in a boat.

Gas prices may not fall to $0.90 a gallon. But let the free market go and prices will stablize or quit rising as fast.

As for Cheney not donating to Katrina. I'm sure he is a racist so lets go ahead and throw that card on the table.

With some scooters getting 110 mpg, I think Clark has the right idea.
As to the nuclear plant issue, I didn't say they had built any. Just saying I have no problem with them.
As to the boat. No.......I am smarter than that. I have friends with boats, which is much better than actually owning one.
Yes, gas prices are that bad. They suck.
Unfortunately, if you live in the suburbs, commuting 20 min+(one way) can cost you a fortune(fortune is a bit strong, I know) over a month.
I don't expect to ever see less than $2.25/gal again.(They have bent us over and EASED it in, and they're just going to go deeper).
I don't think Cheney is necessarily a racist, but I do think he's an opportunistic *****.
 
showboat said:
I also have heard that the median income in western European countries is alot higher than over here in the US...

Does the Netherlands have an Tax on the citizen's income?
As I understand it, much of the price of gas in Europe is tax.
 
All the European countries have income tax and that mostly varies between 15 to 60 percent depending your actuall income.

Biggest issue in sky high prices in Europe is tax. As an example in gasoline it can easily be up to 75%...
 
NINEBALLART said:
Anyone think it strange that V.P.Cheny still gets residues from Enron??? Or Bush still has sharers in oil companies???
Oh yeah...there's definately some link with the criminal Bush and oil companies....
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When I first started going to Melbourne Australia ( I usually go every couple of years) , it was quite a shock to see their Fuel prices. But I have noticed over the years that most of my friends are using LPG in their cars. It doesn't seem they get much better mileage that way but the fuel price for LPG is about 1/2 of the petrol price. I try to rent a car with LPG whenever possible. They also have a very good transit system, so many times I just park at the train station and use the train to go into the ciy. It saves the parking fees, parking ticket fees, and the worries of driving in the city.
 
With some scooters getting 110 mpg, I think Clark has the right idea.
-Clark Howard is a smart man. He also is siding with oil companies too. But scooters don't pull trailers or take the kids and their friends to soccer practice.

As to the nuclear plant issue, I didn't say they had built any. Just saying I have no problem with them.
-Lots of people do have issues. If we built them that would be one less petroleum burning power plant. More Supply and Less demand. Watch the prices stabilize.

Yes, gas prices are that bad. They suck.
Unfortunately, if you live in the suburbs, commuting 20 min+(one way) can cost you a fortune(fortune is a bit strong, I know) over a month.
-haha. We drive a large box truck moving pool tables. We'll do a job in Canton. Then head to Covington. Which during Atlanta traffic can be a 3hour commute. Just to install a table in Hamilton Mill. Sometimes a 2hour commute. We are also a Deisel truck.

I don't think Cheney is necessarily a racist, but I do think he's an opportunist.
There are few politicians who aren't. If they weren't they would not be politicians. That's why I don't vote for Republicans.

For the Record Profits. They may be records but what people don't seem to understand their profit margin is the same. For example.
Say you have 2 Meuccis for sale. Meucci (A) cost $200 and Meucci (B)$400 retail. Let's say the dealer paid $100 for (A) one and $200 for (B). On all of their sticks they charge twice as much as they paid for it. Since they have to make more than $100 or $200 to make profit. No matter what their profit margin for the cheap stick and the expensive stick is the same. 50% of the sale is profit. Wether it is for chalk that cost $4 retail but the dealer gets for $2. Or a $10,000 pool table the dealer gets for $5,000. Also who's business is it if they do raise their profit margins to say 1million percent. They are a private company. They can do what they want with their product and money as they see fit.

Too bad America is becoming a nanny socialist state. What is also sad is politicians today say things that during the 1950s would have you labeled a communist and they'd be wanting your head on a stick for treason. Many times by Democrats.

What will it take?
 
Yea man o man is this starting to hit my wallet. Gas rose about 60 cents in the past 2-3 weeks where I live. I know some people who spend just about all they make every month just to drive to school and back. I can only dream of times when gas was under a dollar, just a distant childhood memory of mine *sniffle sniffle* :(
 
everyone knows by now to get the ediot out of office we should have addressed the oil problem years ago...........
 
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