sharandrew said:
Better put:
At this point the Majority of the people have enough knowledge to know that we need to remove this Idiot from the office he currently resides. We should have addressed the oil problem prior to his arrival.
Gas Prices JUMPED $.08 in 24 Hours
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Better put:
At this point the Majority of the people have enough knowledge to know that we need to remove this Idiot from the office he currently resides. We should have addressed the oil problem prior to his arrival.
Theirs lots of them, it's not a very hard conversion to do.Chris said:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0504/22/autos-159034.htm
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Good ole days...
I remember back in the good ole days when I paid $2000 for a computer that only had about a 33k speed. Now I pay $600 and get a flat screen monitor and and a 1.8 gig speed. Times change. Gas was higher in 1966 than it is now. Gas was higher from 1979 to 1982 too. (Inflation adjusted figures) Gas is triple in Great Britain what it is here. I really think MOST..NOT ALL...people on the news that are complaining about gas prices arent very good at math. They are standing at the gas pump with a tandem wheel Ford F350 SE pickup or an Escalade complaining they are paying $90 to fill up their vehicle. I wish to god that I could AFFORD an Escalade. I can't. Hell, I can't afford the $1200 tires! They chose to buy oversized, overweight, low mpg vehicles and now whine about paying an additional $30 to fill it up. When gas was $2 per gallon they still had to pay $60 to fill it up..right? I also notice most of these people are by themselves. Do they ever car pool? Did they give up pizza on Saturday night to save the $30? Did they rent a movie instead of going out? Are they selling the Escalade they paid $60,000 for to save that $30 a week they are whining about? Or do they like telling all their friends they will be on the news tonight (be sure to watch me!!!)You can buy TWO Hybrid vehicles for that $60,000. Did mom cut back on the trips to the salon? Did they pull the kids out of soccer to save money? Did they tell their daughter no more violin lessons? Did dad stop drinking Sam Adams beer and go to Bud Light? Did he cancel ESPN? HBO? Can't do that..the Sopranos are back on. It is a popular subject in the news now...that doesnt mean its really important. Remember when the country was absorbed with whether or not Anne Heche was crazy because she talked in Alien languages and switched from being a lesbian to being straight again? Then 9/11 happened and we changed our priorities. Gas prices are not the fault of George Bush or Exxon or environmentalists. It is the fault of spoiled Americans who care more about impressing the neighbors with expensive big Hummers, not caring about alternative energy and not caring about basic economics, or basic math that would explain 99% of what you hear on the news is rhetoric and drama and not fact. I am listening to the news right now and I hear how all these things should have been done 20 years ago to be taking place now. No one cares. I don't remember any protests or demands when Ronald Reagan was in office about solar energy farms or hydrogen cars. We were worried about the Soviet Union then. We didnt care. 4 years from now gas will be $5 per gallon and we will be crying that no one is doing enough in our government for the crisis of the day. The headline will be "Hillary Clinton denies knowing bird flu was coming " or maybe "Monica Lewinsky caught sneaking out of White House again!" There will be another crisis. Who knows...maybe Anne Heche will be an alien talking lesbian again...now THATS a crisis to be worried about by every American. We DO have our priorities.
I rack balls said:Yea man o man is this starting to hit my wallet. Gas rose about 60 cents in the past 2-3 weeks where I live. I know some people who spend just about all they make every month just to drive to school and back. I can only dream of times when gas was under a dollar, just a distant childhood memory of mine *sniffle sniffle*
I remember back in the good ole days when I paid $2000 for a computer that only had about a 33k speed. Now I pay $600 and get a flat screen monitor and and a 1.8 gig speed. Times change. Gas was higher in 1966 than it is now. Gas was higher from 1979 to 1982 too. (Inflation adjusted figures) Gas is triple in Great Britain what it is here. I really think MOST..NOT ALL...people on the news that are complaining about gas prices arent very good at math. They are standing at the gas pump with a tandem wheel Ford F350 SE pickup or an Escalade complaining they are paying $90 to fill up their vehicle. I wish to god that I could AFFORD an Escalade. I can't. Hell, I can't afford the $1200 tires! They chose to buy oversized, overweight, low mpg vehicles and now whine about paying an additional $30 to fill it up. When gas was $2 per gallon they still had to pay $60 to fill it up..right? I also notice most of these people are by themselves. Do they ever car pool? Did they give up pizza on Saturday night to save the $30? Did they rent a movie instead of going out? Are they selling the Escalade they paid $60,000 for to save that $30 a week they are whining about? Or do they like telling all their friends they will be on the news tonight (be sure to watch me!!!)You can buy TWO Hybrid vehicles for that $60,000. Did mom cut back on the trips to the salon? Did they pull the kids out of soccer to save money? Did they tell their daughter no more violin lessons? Did dad stop drinking Sam Adams beer and go to Bud Light? Did he cancel ESPN? HBO? Can't do that..the Sopranos are back on. It is a popular subject in the news now...that doesnt mean its really important. Remember when the country was absorbed with whether or not Anne Heche was crazy because she talked in Alien languages and switched from being a lesbian to being straight again? Then 9/11 happened and we changed our priorities. Gas prices are not the fault of George Bush or Exxon or environmentalists. It is the fault of spoiled Americans who care more about impressing the neighbors with expensive big Hummers, not caring about alternative energy and not caring about basic economics, or basic math that would explain 99% of what you hear on the news is rhetoric and drama and not fact. I am listening to the news right now and I hear how all these things should have been done 20 years ago to be taking place now. No one cares. I don't remember any protests or demands when Ronald Reagan was in office about solar energy farms or hydrogen cars. We were worried about the Soviet Union then. We didnt care. 4 years from now gas will be $5 per gallon and we will be crying that no one is doing enough in our government for the crisis of the day. The headline will be "Hillary Clinton denies knowing bird flu was coming " or maybe "Monica Lewinsky caught sneaking out of White House again!" There will be another crisis. Who knows...maybe Anne Heche will be an alien talking lesbian again...now THATS a crisis to be worried about by every American. We DO have our priorities.
I went into the gas station today and
asked for five dollars worth of gas.
The clerk farted and gave me a receipt.
asked for five dollars worth of gas.
The clerk farted and gave me a receipt.
What is really needed ...
for today's problems, and how to address them is a special way through
the internet by the people to gather support for getting certain congressmen, senators, or even a president out of office to be replaced
with someone THAT HAS A WORKING BRAIN, and not on the payroll of
lobbiests.
If such a way existed, I have no doubt that many elected officials would never make to full term.
for today's problems, and how to address them is a special way through
the internet by the people to gather support for getting certain congressmen, senators, or even a president out of office to be replaced
with someone THAT HAS A WORKING BRAIN, and not on the payroll of
lobbiests.
If such a way existed, I have no doubt that many elected officials would never make to full term.
Just Blame George
Ediot is spelled Idiot........
Geeez -- Let's blame George W and Cheney for every problem in the whole world. High gas prices, Katrina, teenage pregnancy, nukes in Korea, gangsta rap, obese kids, Williebetmore rack overpriced?? Weren't they both beer drinkin buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald??
No one wants to take responsibility for our own excesses and faults. Let the competitive free market system work - promote competition and thoroughly prosecute those that are corrupt and price gouging.
I'm sure the next brilliant democratic leadership will have their opportunity to make everything perfect! What's Hillary proposing ??
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sharandrew said:
Ediot is spelled Idiot........
Geeez -- Let's blame George W and Cheney for every problem in the whole world. High gas prices, Katrina, teenage pregnancy, nukes in Korea, gangsta rap, obese kids, Williebetmore rack overpriced?? Weren't they both beer drinkin buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald??
No one wants to take responsibility for our own excesses and faults. Let the competitive free market system work - promote competition and thoroughly prosecute those that are corrupt and price gouging.
I'm sure the next brilliant democratic leadership will have their opportunity to make everything perfect! What's Hillary proposing ??
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I am AMAZED this thread has lasted this long in this area of the forum, since it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH POOL.
Jigger said:Ediot is spelled Idiot........
Geeez -- Let's blame George W and Cheney for every problem in the whole world. High gas prices, Katrina, teenage pregnancy, nukes in Korea, gangsta rap, obese kids, Williebetmore rack overpriced?? Weren't they both beer drinkin buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald??
No one wants to take responsibility for our own excesses and faults. Let the competitive free market system work - promote competition and thoroughly prosecute those that are corrupt and price gouging.
I'm sure the next brilliant democratic leadership will have their opportunity to make everything perfect! What's Hillary proposing ??
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I always knew the twig(I mean bush) was responsible for teenage pregnancy, cuz he's such a fu#&er
you left out a couple other things
After reading a couple of recent TIME magazine articles, I think you left out a couple of other concerns that noone seems to be caring about either.....namely the fact that global warming is really affecting the environment NOW, instead of decades from now, and the other fact that besides Iran and Korea, it seems inevitable that OTHER radical extremists (read terrorists) will have nuclear capability in the not too distant future....I read that the earth has existed for something like 130,000,000,000 (130 billion?) years, and humans have had nukes for 61 years....so how much longer before we self-destruct? In case you needed something else to worry about..........
cueandcushion said:
After reading a couple of recent TIME magazine articles, I think you left out a couple of other concerns that noone seems to be caring about either.....namely the fact that global warming is really affecting the environment NOW, instead of decades from now, and the other fact that besides Iran and Korea, it seems inevitable that OTHER radical extremists (read terrorists) will have nuclear capability in the not too distant future....I read that the earth has existed for something like 130,000,000,000 (130 billion?) years, and humans have had nukes for 61 years....so how much longer before we self-destruct? In case you needed something else to worry about..........
Snapshot9 said:
What does being President or a Government official have to do with petroleum prices? (Sadly with the ignorant Americans/socialist more than it should)
I'm tired of people wanting to steal oil from oil companies at gun point. Yes it is at gun point. What people are wanting to happen is the government to tell oil companies what they can and can't charge. How do you enforce that. Simple. The government says do it. The company says no. The Government says we are seizing your property. The company says no, we refuse to move. That is when the guns show up. And since people are forcing government officials with the threat of throwing them out of office. They are using their guns to make you happy. You might as well of pulled the trigger.
There is one way to get a politician off the payroll of the lobbyist. The Fair Tax. Or a consumption tax which does away from taxes on Business', income, property, social security, etc. Infact we can destroy Kstreet with ease and use the extra space to house all that extra money we'll make.
Has anyone thought that maybe with the increase in the gay population the demand for lubricants has increased causing a rise in the cost of petroleum based products?
wahcheck said:
The earth is closer to 4 or 5 billion years old and has maybe another 5 billion years to go. Take a look at a mountain or the grand canyon or an ocean. Look at the power of storms and earth quakes and you begin to realize how totally insignificant we are. We view the world in terms we understand because we live such very very short lives in the grand scheme of things we mean nothing at all. Global warming, pollution, wrecking the environment has little to no effect to the earth. It may very well kill us off but the earth will just heal it's self and in a few million years will erase any trace we were ever here and the next dominant species will take over. It is the supreme arrogance of the human species to believe we mean anything to the earth.
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daytonajoe said:
This is pool related because you can clean your simonis with flaming gasoline!
macguy said:
A good example is to look at Mount St. Helens. How many Nuclear Bombs would it take for us to do that much damage to a mountain like that? I'd be suprised if we could.
Global Warming may be happening. But some scientists have actually come out and said the emmisions from the vehicles are also blocking out rays from the sun just as other scientists say that we are trapping the sun's rays in here from the same reason. Science is not an exact science.
smittie1984 said:
Here i must disagree. Science itself is exact and it's supposed to be like that. The problem we have is the lack of tools to first find out and then prove things exactly without any doubts.
pete-biker said:
That is true.
It just seems there is always someone who can prove something wrong about whatever. Even stuff that is suppose to be as solid as E=MC2.
I think some of science is hampered by people's personal bias. Some scientist or people in general are so stuck on getting their Hypothesis right they overlook some facts.
For example. What if Global Warming was proven to be untrue without a doubt? Or even the other way around. People who are stuck in their ways will never change and will come up with excuses as to why they are still right.
I think science lately has been sort of hijacked by the anti-capitalist crowd. They know that it is hard for someone to argue against a measure that would supposedly help the enviroment. It would be like trying to vote against a bill called "Flags for Orphans". Good luck getting a elected next year.
I agree that my wallet is a bit thinner now than a few months ago, but I haven't yet had to alter my lifestyle because I don't have enough money. I agree with former posters that we here in the U.S. are arrogant when it comes to what we want, when we want it.
Here in Louisiana, about $0.40 on every gallon is state tax. That and the previously noted fact concerning the need for 17 different blends causes pricing across the country to vary quite a bit. Now the Governor of Louisiana wants to take even more money in the form of taxes on oil revenues, which may help in providing relief for Katrina and Rita victims and other social services, but will also cause an increase in price at the pump. You can't have it both ways.
I also think that we have seen disproportionately low fuel costs here compared to other parts of the world that it shocks us when the prices rise. I work in the oil and gas industry (a service company providing services to the major oil companies). I have seen the comparison between the cost of milk vs. gas before and it is very interesting.
We pay upwards of $3.75/gallon for milk. Here's the process. Put alot of cows in a big pasture and feed them and provide water. Milk them, pastuerize the milk. Truck it to the large milk company, bottle it, truck it to a store and sell it. All for $3.75/gallon.
Produce gas. Prospect for an oil and gas producing field by performing geological surveys. Discern whether you think the reserves present are beneficial to go after. Pay all of the landowners a lease (percentage of the production, if there ever is any) plus a few $100 for their troubles. Move a rig to a drilling location, and set it up in such a way as to be able to put the area back to its original condition after you are finished producing (don't pollute the area). Pay a company to drill the well, once drilled complete it so that you can pump the oil out. Once you can produce crude oil, you must find a way to get it to a refinery (piped, rail, ship, or truck). Refine it into 100s of different products (one being gasoline). Then find a way to get it to the end user. All for $3.00/gallon.
Bottled water. $1.25 for a 20 oz. bottle. You figure it out.
Here in Louisiana, about $0.40 on every gallon is state tax. That and the previously noted fact concerning the need for 17 different blends causes pricing across the country to vary quite a bit. Now the Governor of Louisiana wants to take even more money in the form of taxes on oil revenues, which may help in providing relief for Katrina and Rita victims and other social services, but will also cause an increase in price at the pump. You can't have it both ways.
I also think that we have seen disproportionately low fuel costs here compared to other parts of the world that it shocks us when the prices rise. I work in the oil and gas industry (a service company providing services to the major oil companies). I have seen the comparison between the cost of milk vs. gas before and it is very interesting.
We pay upwards of $3.75/gallon for milk. Here's the process. Put alot of cows in a big pasture and feed them and provide water. Milk them, pastuerize the milk. Truck it to the large milk company, bottle it, truck it to a store and sell it. All for $3.75/gallon.
Produce gas. Prospect for an oil and gas producing field by performing geological surveys. Discern whether you think the reserves present are beneficial to go after. Pay all of the landowners a lease (percentage of the production, if there ever is any) plus a few $100 for their troubles. Move a rig to a drilling location, and set it up in such a way as to be able to put the area back to its original condition after you are finished producing (don't pollute the area). Pay a company to drill the well, once drilled complete it so that you can pump the oil out. Once you can produce crude oil, you must find a way to get it to a refinery (piped, rail, ship, or truck). Refine it into 100s of different products (one being gasoline). Then find a way to get it to the end user. All for $3.00/gallon.
Bottled water. $1.25 for a 20 oz. bottle. You figure it out.
One other quick note. In the process description noted in my previous post with regard to oil/gas: After all of these costs, the well may actually end up being a dud. All the costs still have to be paid for that prep work = $$$$millions. The cost to run an offshore drilling rig (large one) = $250,000-450,000 per day!!! The rigs don't run by themselves, and this industry is one of the 5 most dangerous places to work (I believe top 5, may be less). During Katrina and Rita last year, many rigs and platforms in the Gulf of Mexico were damaged to the point that they are no longer operable. There are still 6 rigs somewhere out there that haven't been found yet.
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