Gas Prices, The Internet, and Pool

PoolSleuth

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Heard on the NEWS this a.m. they expect Local Gas Price to jump 25 CENTS/Gal in the next week or so.

Last weekend I was at the House of Cues in PHX, and the owner was saying Walk-in Biz was Slow thank to the Cost of Gas, as folk don't want to travel.

Also apparently House of Cues in PHX is now on line and a Big Percentage of his Sale are from the Web-site.

If GAS goes through the Roof as Expected will you still travel to playing in Pool Tournaments, etc...


Think the USA need to CLONE Brazil idea of burning Fuel in our Vehicles made from Sugar Cane, or Corn, and tell the Oil Companies to SHOVE IT....:D
 
PoolSleuth said:



Think the USA need to CLONE Brazil idea of burning Fuel in our Vehicles made from Sugar Cane, or Corn, and tell the Oil Companies to SHOVE IT....:D
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Yeah then when I go to the grocery store when I plan on having people over for a cookout 10 ears of corn should cost me about 50 bucks instead of 5 dollars.

Doesnt matter what the gas is made up, they will jack the price on it.:(
 
Icon of Sin said:
Doesnt matter what the gas is made up, they will jack the price on it.:(
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Point is we can grow our own FUEL, and not depend upon Africia, South America, Mexico, or the Middle East.......;)
 
PoolSleuth said:
Point is we can grow our own FUEL, and not depend upon Africia, South America, Mexico, or the Middle East.......;)
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We could - but it'll take a while, even if there's the social and political will to go that route.

Brazil started down that route about what? 20 years ago? And they're producing about 25% of their fuel usage via agriculture now? Those are just figures rattling around in my head from news reports I've heard in recent months, I'm not claiming major accuracy there.

Ahh, gotta love Wikipedia - here's a link on Brazil and ethanol fuel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

Point being, there's no quick route away from fossil fuels. It would take ramping up the agricultural side (corn or sugar), auto producers to start producing cars that will handle the alternative fuels, and the fuel-delivery infrastructure (gas stations) to start offering it. And everyone is waiting for everyone ELSE to make the first move. Auto producers don't want to blow money making lots of alternative fuel cars if consumers don't have gas stations nearby offering the needed fuel. Gas stations don't want to offer the fuel if there's no cars in the area coming to buy it, etc etc.

There's a neat blog out there called AutoBlog (www.autoblog.com) and they have a offshoot blog called AutoblogGreen (www.autobloggreen.com) that's all about alternative fuel uses, hybrids, etc. Good reading (both sites).

And as far as the question on driving to pool tournaments - if there's a decent chance I'll win enough moolah to cover (or more than cover) my costs, then heck yeah I'll drive. :D
 
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The first thing that ya'll need to do is get smaller cars. Even if we start to produce our own energy from corn, the environmental issues remain. Besides it would take at least 10 years to get ethanol plants producing enough fuel to make a dent.

I place the blame squarely on the American people for wasting energy. They care not about the future stability of the earth, only their "right" to drive down the road in a tank. These same masses voted Bush into office which only made matters worse. He's not going to buck the oil companies by encouraging ethanol production and his war in Iraq, destabilized the region.

On the up side, the high gas prices will force ya'll to drive small cars. Soon you won't be able to give away your SUV. ;)
 
stroke said:
The first thing that ya'll need to do is get smaller cars. Even if we start to produce our own energy from corn, the environmental issues remain. Besides it would take at least 10 years to get ethanol plants producing enough fuel to make a dent.

On the up side, the high gas prices will force ya'll to drive small cars. Soon you won't be able to give away your SUV. ;)
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If that ain't the truth! Trading in my Ford F150 4WD for a smal car... Can't afford to spend $20.00 in gas grocery shopping anymore!
 
Put the pedal to the metal :~)

There is a guy near me that has been rebuilding old bugs for about 10 years.
He takes out the engine and the gas tank. The get a special bracket from Kennedy Engineering to mount a electric motor to the trans-axle. Around the motor he mounts 4-5 12 volt car batteries and another 4-6 in the gas tank compartment. I have no idea what he uses for a speed controller but it is on a larger scale to the RC cars you see. :eek: He mounts the power cord plug-in at the gas tank door.

Anyway the fun of it is he gets about 120 miles round trip on one charge. For fun he has mounted a speaker in the engine bay and plays a tape of a old bug motor "chugging along" and waves at everyone at the gas station with a big smile on his face and a big wad in his pocket. (he has several for sale).

Now, it don't bug me at all because, I have an old Oval in the backyard looking for a motor. ;)

Now when gas get to the same price as a can of beer, do you think I will be still gassing it? :confused:

Bugs. LOL
 
Hehe you guys complain about paying to much for gas, in Norway we pay 2 dollars per liter. Plus our road tax is 452 dollars a year, and we also have to pay each time to use most of the new good highways about 4 dollars. Our cars are among the most expensive in the world thanks to the taxes from the government. A new Chevrolet Tahoe 5,3 Premium costs new 193596,77 dollars! A normal mid size family car costs between 40000 to 60000 dollars, and that is not luxury only a Ford Mondeo or a Toyota Avensis.
Norway is a bad bad country to own cars in, better take the bus.:D .... But wait there wont be one coming for another hour or so...... :mad:
 
PoolSleuth said:

Think the USA need to CLONE Brazil idea of burning Fuel in our Vehicles made from Sugar Cane, or Corn, and tell the Oil Companies to SHOVE IT....:D
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Fact... the production of ethanol uses more hydrocarbons than is gained by using it as fuel.

ie. the natural gas used to produce fertillizer, fuel used in farming, and the energy needed to ferment and refine the ethanol.

Fact, Ethanol is NOT mother natures fuel. Try the sun it's free.
 
PoolSleuth said:
Point is we can grow our own FUEL, and not depend upon Africia, South America, Mexico, or the Middle East.......;)
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You missed the number 1 importer of oil to the US... Canada.
 
ATH said:
Hehe you guys complain about paying to much for gas, in Norway we pay 2 dollars per liter. Plus our road tax is 452 dollars a year, and we also have to pay each time to use most of the new good highways about 4 dollars. Our cars are among the most expensive in the world thanks to the taxes from the government. .... :mad:
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At the risk of angering you even more, how much for a beer in a bar in Norway these days ?

Dave
 
supergreenman said:
Fact... the production of ethanol uses more hydrocarbons than is gained by using it as fuel.

ie. the natural gas used to produce fertillizer, fuel used in farming, and the energy needed to ferment and refine the ethanol.

Fact, Ethanol is NOT mother natures fuel. Try the sun it's free.
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There have been many discussions about ethanol plants around here. We can grow massive amounts of various crops, but the economics still do not work out. These initiatives are often associated with a feed lot (fatten up cattle for market) where the dregs of the fermentation process can be used as feed, so there is more than just ethanol revenue. But with gas prices going the way they are I'm sure something like bio-diesel will become more popular, which is fine, we grow lots of canola too. :D I'd bet that some of our world-class genetic engineers are working on some interesting franken-canola as we speak.

Dave

PS Bio-diesel also smells better than regular diesel, you think 'fast food' whenever one of these vehicles drive by :)
 
DaveK said:
There have been many discussions about ethanol plants around here. We can grow massive amounts of various crops, but the economics still do not work out. These initiatives are often associated with a feed lot (fatten up cattle for market) where the dregs of the fermentation process can be used as feed, so there is more than just ethanol revenue. But with gas prices going the way they are I'm sure something like bio-diesel will become more popular, which is fine, we grow lots of canola too. :D I'd bet that some of our world-class genetic engineers are working on some interesting franken-canola as we speak.

Dave

PS Bio-diesel also smells better than regular diesel, you think 'fast food' whenever one of these vehicles drive by :)
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This post was sponsered by Monsantos(makers of round up ready canola and franken corn), McDonalds, and Agriculture Canada
 
A beer, wich is normally 0,5 liters dont know how much that is in pints.
But a beer, 0,5 cost about 8 or 9 dollars in a bar or nightclub.
If you buy a bottle of say Bud it cost about 10 dollars.
 
supergreenman said:
This post was sponsered by Monsantos(makers of round up ready canola and franken corn), McDonalds, and Agriculture Canada
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What a great place Saskatoon is, we're a world leader in uranium mining and genetic engineering .... just wait until we combine these two fields .... GLOW-IN-THE-DARK-FRANKEN-CANOLA :eek:

Dave
 
ATH said:
A beer, wich is normally 0,5 liters dont know how much that is in pints.
But a beer, 0,5 cost about 8 or 9 dollars in a bar or nightclub.
If you buy a bottle of say Bud it cost about 10 dollars.
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Wow ! A 384ml can of beer is about $3 in bars in Canada. A 384ml can of Bud is about $0.30 :D (that's a joke btw)

Thanks ATA, and btw, 383ml is 12 fluid ounces ... they changed the labeling but not the can size ;) A can of Coke is 355ml (10 oz).

Dave, thread hijacker extrordinaire :D
 
ATH said:
A beer, wich is normally 0,5 liters dont know how much that is in pints.
But a beer, 0,5 cost about 8 or 9 dollars in a bar or nightclub.
If you buy a bottle of say Bud it cost about 10 dollars.
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.5 L is 16.9 oz

A liter and a quart are very close to the same amount. A liter is 33.8 oz and a quart is 32 oz.
 
ATH said:
A beer, wich is normally 0,5 liters dont know how much that is in pints.
But a beer, 0,5 cost about 8 or 9 dollars in a bar or nightclub.
If you buy a bottle of say Bud it cost about 10 dollars.
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:eek: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
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