Gas Prices, The Internet, and Pool

[ScottW]

Fact... the production of ethanol uses more hydrocarbons than is gained by using it as fuel.

ie. the natural gas used to produce fertillizer, fuel used in farming, and the energy needed to ferment and refine the ethanol.

Fact, Ethanol is NOT mother natures fuel. Try the sun it's free.

But the real kicker is that it's RENEWABLE. And yeah, so is solar.

But I don't see solar-powered vehicles in our lifetimes... unless some major tech breakthrough happens.

 

[supergreenman]

But the real kicker is that it's RENEWABLE. And yeah, so is solar.

But I don't see solar-powered vehicles in our lifetimes... unless some major tech breakthrough happens.

When you factor in all the hydrocarbons(non-renewable) used in fertillizing and producing ethanol, I wouldn't consider it a renewable resource. it's like putting $500 into a video lottery terminal, winning $400 and thinking you're ahead.

 

[Str8PoolMan]

A beer, wich is normally 0,5 liters dont know how much that is in pints.
But a beer, 0,5 cost about 8 or 9 dollars in a bar or nightclub.
If you buy a bottle of say Bud it cost about 10 dollars.

The only place in Texas that charges 8 dollars for a beer has naked women dancing in it...beautiful naked women.

 

[stroke]

Hehe you guys complain about paying to much for gas, in Norway we pay 2 dollars per liter. Plus our road tax is 452 dollars a year, and we also have to pay each time to use most of the new good highways about 4 dollars.

Yeah but you can breath the air there and those taxes go for health care and sundry other service.

 

[Chris]

When you factor in all the hydrocarbons(non-renewable) used in fertillizing and producing ethanol, I wouldn't consider it a renewable resource. it's like putting $500 into a video lottery terminal, winning $400 and thinking you're ahead.

What can be done with hydrocarbons can be done with carbohydrates.

It is true the jury is still out on the energy efficiency of producing methanol. The side that claims it is very energy efficient tends to overlook certain costs of production. The side claiming it requires more energy to produce than can be obtained tends to overlook some of the beneficial byproducts, and attribute all the costs to only the methanol, instead of dividing the costs proportionately with the final products.

Also, we tend to forget that there are better, more efficient sources than corn to produce ethanol.

Remember, Rudoplph Diesel designed his engine to run on vegetable oil. The idea of fueling it with petroleum came later. Biodiesel is very promising, and can be used in existing diesel engines with little or no modification.

 

[ScottW]

When you factor in all the hydrocarbons(non-renewable) used in fertillizing and producing ethanol, I wouldn't consider it a renewable resource. it's like putting $500 into a video lottery terminal, winning $400 and thinking you're ahead.

I didn't say "cheaper" did I? No.

And I doubt we're going to run out of hydrocarbons before we run out of oil in the ground.

 

[Billy_Bob]

...apparently House of Cues in PHX is now on line and a Big Percentage of his Sale are from the Web-site.

If GAS goes through the Roof as Expected will you still travel to playing in Pool Tournaments, etc...

I live in a rural area and it is less expensive to purchase things from the internet and have them shipped than to drive 40 miles to a local store. So cost of gas is a factor as to if I will shop locally or via the internet.

So far as tournaments, many people around here live paycheck to paycheck. They don't have much of any "extra" money. When gas prices go up, the cost of driving to work every day goes up for these people. So they have to cut back on something. This tends to be entertainment/pool/tournaments, etc.

Around here attendance at pool tournaments has been way down.