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[Egg McDogit]

kind of slow today...so here's a fictional situation...1 hole..you made a ball on the break...how do you play this savory rack? I'm trying to understand how aggressive people play...what the right/wrong shots are, etc.

wei table:
START(
%AO3O5%BL7P8%CC8M7%DL5M5%EN1P2%FJ7P2%GK1N1%HM7N8%IL3O0%JK4J9
%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%f1
)END

for instance, would you go so far as to leave the 3 there so you could get on the other side of the stack and breakout with the 10, play a cut on the 12 - so you could come off the rail and use the 3 to get position on the other side of the stack? would you just run the 11, 3 and bank the 14 defensively? or maybe run the 11, 3, 12 and bank the 14 into the stack and try to move some balls at the risk of selling out a bank? Lots of possibilities...trying to understand what the "better" alternatives are and why

thanks

 

[Shorty]

kind of slow today...so here's a fictional situation...1 hole..you made a ball on the break...how do you play this savory rack? I'm trying to understand how aggressive people play...what the right/wrong shots are, etc.

wei table:
START(
%AO3O5%BL7P8%CC8M7%DL5M5%EN1P2%FJ7P2%GK1N1%HM7N8%IL3O0%JK4J9
%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%f1
)END

for instance, would you go so far as to leave the 3 there so you could get on the other side of the stack and breakout with the 10, play a cut on the 12 - so you could come off the rail and use the 3 to get position on the other side of the stack? would you just run the 11, 3 and bank the 14 defensively? or maybe run the 11, 3, 12 and bank the 14 into the stack and try to move some balls at the risk of selling out a bank? Lots of possibilities...trying to understand what the "better" alternatives are and why

thanks

Me, the 11 with bottom inside maybe...to kill the cue almost...leave me with a good angle on the 3. Next shoot the 3 with top right...coming out for the 12. Even if I nudge the 10 out some, I am okay. Shoot the 12 and actually depending on the angle I got on the 12, maybe try the cut back bank on the 14...its a pretty safe bank. If I roll out far enough I get a good angle on the 10 for a possible break out shot.

Thats just my approach, but I play pretty conservative 1 hole.

Shorty

 

[Jimmy M.]

I'd start with this shot.

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%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%WK8R7%XO8Y0%YC3C8%ZJ5P1
%[I0Y3%\K3R2
)END

Then I'd shoot the 14 and play to get slightly under the 11 so I could knock some balls loose and still have a shot on the 3 afterward (if nothing better presented itself after I knocked some balls loose from the stack).

 

[OldHasBeen]

Or - You could shoot the RIGHT shot!

kind of slow today...so here's a fictional situation...1 hole..you made a ball on the break...how do you play this savory rack? I'm trying to understand how aggressive people play...what the right/wrong shots are, etc.

wei table:
START(
%AO3O5%BL7P8%CC8M7%DL5M5%EN1P2%FJ7P2%GK1N1%HM7N8%IL3O0%JK4J9
%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%f1
)END

for instance, would you go so far as to leave the 3 there so you could get on the other side of the stack and breakout with the 10, play a cut on the 12 - so you could come off the rail and use the 3 to get position on the other side of the stack? would you just run the 11, 3 and bank the 14 defensively? or maybe run the 11, 3, 12 and bank the 14 into the stack and try to move some balls at the risk of selling out a bank? Lots of possibilities...trying to understand what the "better" alternatives are and why

thanks

I would 4 rail the 3 either into my hole or hit the ball close to it. I would also draw the cue ball almost stright back and rest on the rail or nip the left side of that ball in the stack and rest on or close to the rail. As with ANY One Pocket shot - The cue ball is The Game.

TY & GL

 

[OldHasBeen]

"HOLD THE PHONE" - I didn't see the dead one in the stack.

Hell, I'd shoot the dead combo that is in the stack and throw my cue ball down to the end rail and back up maybe 8 inches & off the rail. From there I don't know what I would shoot - BUT - You wouldn't be shooting anymore this game. The first ball I hit shooting the combo is going into the rest of the stack. Either the game will be over - Or - It will take a very loooooong time for you to lose it anyway.

TY & GL

 

[mjantti]

kind of slow today...so here's a fictional situation...1 hole..you made a ball on the break...how do you play this savory rack? I'm trying to understand how aggressive people play...what the right/wrong shots are, etc.

wei table:
START(
%AO3O5%BL7P8%CC8M7%DL5M5%EN1P2%FJ7P2%GK1N1%HM7N8%IL3O0%JK4J9
%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%f1
)END

for instance, would you go so far as to leave the 3 there so you could get on the other side of the stack and breakout with the 10, play a cut on the 12 - so you could come off the rail and use the 3 to get position on the other side of the stack? would you just run the 11, 3 and bank the 14 defensively? or maybe run the 11, 3, 12 and bank the 14 into the stack and try to move some balls at the risk of selling out a bank? Lots of possibilities...trying to understand what the "better" alternatives are and why

thanks

I'd shoot the 13-6 combo and try to hold the cueball for the 13 and try to leave the 13 on. If the 13 stays makeable, I can see 6 more loose balls to run out in any order to win the rack. I'd probably shoot 13-11-14-3-12-10 from there on.

If you didn't mean to leave a dead one from the stack, I'd probably start with 11 and play for the 14, because I want to get rid of that asap, no bank needed because you can play easy position from the 11, even the angle is nice to get behind the 14. Then I'd leave a good angle for the 3-ball and try to hit the cueball half-ball or slightly thicker above the 7 and probably freeing the 4-ball and playing position for the 12. Actually, to me it looks that if I get a good kiss on the 7-ball, I might leave a dead 9-7 combo into my hole.

I'm not an experienced 1pocket player, but I think offense is the best defense in this situation and I'd go for the 8-out because the balls are quite easily spread.

 

[mjantti]

I'd start with this shot.

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%KH8P6%LG9D5%MK6Q9%NF9U5%OB8B7%PO7X9%WK8R7%XO8Y0%YC3C8%ZJ5P1
%[I0Y3%\K3R2
)END

Then I'd shoot the 14 and play to get slightly under the 11 so I could knock some balls loose and still have a shot on the 3 afterward (if nothing better presented itself after I knocked some balls loose from the stack).

I like this shot as well. I think it's better than my approach. If you somehow screw up the combo, you don't leave much.

 

[Egg McDogit]

Not sure I'm following how you could 4 rail with that angle man. Assuming you pulled it off but didn't make your ball...wouldn't the other guy just bank the 14 behind the stack on his side and try to come off the bottom rail to kick your balls out or lock you up? It'd be pretty easy to run a couple balls here...why would you risk giving them up for the shot you described? Not trying to rag on your suggestion at all...just trying to understand/learn...can you please explain?

thanks

I would 4 rail the 3 either into my hole or hit the ball close to it. I would also draw the cue ball almost stright back and rest on the rail or nip the left side of that ball in the stack and rest on or close to the rail. As with ANY One Pocket shot - The cue ball is The Game.
TY & GL

 

[Black-Balled]

Slow?! At BAH? Como puede ser? I think OHB/ the 4-railer is suggested with the thought that no other balls are makeable. Or maybe he's f'in with ya!.
I go w/ the combo first too, draw for the 14 if it passes. Then you acn go for 11 or 3, dep on angle. That's 4, do I need any more?

 

[Egg McDogit]

I think OHB/ the 4-railer is suggested with the thought that no other balls are makeable. Or maybe he's f'in with ya!.

man I'm so clueless I really can't tell. I would probably just bust the rack wide open and send whitey flying around the table...you know how I love to slam everything warp speed!

That's 4, do I need any more?

well let's see if you're playing me...you need about *6* more on your break

 

[Black-Balled]

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[OldHasBeen]

Hard to tell true angles.

Not sure I'm following how you could 4 rail with that angle man. Assuming you pulled it off but didn't make your ball...wouldn't the other guy just bank the 14 behind the stack on his side and try to come off the bottom rail to kick your balls out or lock you up? It'd be pretty easy to run a couple balls here...why would you risk giving them up for the shot you described? Not trying to rag on your suggestion at all...just trying to understand/learn...can you please explain?

thanks

It is pretty hard to really see the exact angles on Wei - At least for an OldHasBeen.
The 4 railer is a good shot IF the angle is there to power draw stright back to where your cue ball SHOULD be right after the break.

TY & GL

 

[Shorty]

It is pretty hard to really see the exact angles on Wei - At least for an OldHasBeen.
The 4 railer is a good shot IF the angle is there to power draw stright back to where your cue ball SHOULD be right after the break.

TY & GL

Allow me to interpret this for you guys...

I ain't telling nobody what I would shoot because it would kill all my action of ever getting a one pocket game with any of you SOBs...LMAO....J/k OHB

But seriously, if the combo was lined up, that is the best shot in the beginning, but I didn't think it would go based on the WEI as I interpretted it. WEI and real life are very hard to distinguish sometimes, IE the exact clearance and angles of balls.

I still stick with my orginal more conservative view...and no I am not Republican.

Shorty