give me some advice for my major problem

W

westlife

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
hello good day to all of members,,i have a problem with the power shot....

When i shot the OB to the pocket with a soft/less power shot i make that shot..but when i put a power to the stroke i miss my shot

i make a drills for first i put an OB to the foot spot and i shot in slow/low power shot and in 1-10 times i shot tha OB i got 9shot and 1 miss shot,,,but the bad things is when i do the drills whith a power shot in 1-10 shot i make only 3 shot and miss 7 shot :angry:


My cue is under my chin and both eyes even i am a right eye dominant,,my stroke is pendulum and sometime slightly dropping the elbow a little bit,,my arms is hitting my chest when finishing the shot i hold a cue stick with my middle finger and thumb only..and my stance is the cue stick is near to my right body when i do a pratice/warm up stroke i feel that my arms touching my right chest,,...




i need your advice how can i fix this problem.....do i need to change my stance or the way i stroke

by the way this example of my position/style,,,this pic is an sample only its not me

 
I guess it is a standard problem most people have. You just do not have enough stability in muscles yet to perform a power shot correctly. It will come with a time. You can try to gradually increase the power.

Work on a straight shot (hitting center). There was a thread on the subject recently. Also,
see MOFUDAT and "Speed control drill" at http://www.billiards.colostate.edu/resources/
 
Last edited:
Try speeding up your practice strokes to match the speed of your final stroke. I see lots of players use slow practice strokes and then try to shoot with a fast stroke, which results in jumping up, or other unwanted movement because the body is unprepared to shoot a power shot.
Good luck!
 
westlife said:
hello good day to all of members,,i have a problem with the power shot....

When i shot the OB to the pocket with a soft/less power shot i make that shot..but when i put a power to the stroke i miss my shot

i make a drills for first i put an OB to the foot spot and i shot in slow/low power shot and in 1-10 times i shot tha OB i got 9shot and 1 miss shot,,,but the bad things is when i do the drills whith a power shot in 1-10 shot i make only 3 shot and miss 7 shot :angry:


My cue is under my chin and both eyes even i am a right eye dominant,,my stroke is pendulum and sometime slightly dropping the elbow a little bit,,my arms is hitting my chest when finishing the shot i hold a cue stick with my middle finger and thumb only..and my stance is the cue stick is near to my right body when i do a pratice/warm up stroke i feel that my arms touching my right chest,,...




i need your advice how can i fix this problem.....do i need to change my stance or the way i stroke

by the way this example of my position/style,,,this pic is an sample only its not me

Click to expand...

Welcome here to the forum :-)

So you can deliver your cue pretty good and straight to the point where you *aim* at lower/normal speed. So this is great!
The problem you describe here is something every human on the planet does have. The more acceleration you re using, the more difficult it is, to deliver the cue on this *striking line* you imagined. This is nothing but a physical issue (if we call it an issue^^).
This can just get better by practicing more and more. As time goes buy your success rate will grow also on these power shots.
Don t make yourself too crazy. It is really just *human*.
And if you have already such a good stroke, that oyu pot the balls 90% with low and normal speed.......well- that s something many would like to do also...and still are not able to do ^^

have a smooth stroke,
Ingo
 
You gotta find your comfort foot work and body wise, like how far can you lean down and where you set your eyes to shoot. I know this one player who shoot who doesn't stand and hold the cue down like most normal players do. He stand away from his cue and only his head is near the cue....like he reaching away from his body which is weird but he was a bad ass player and gambler....but that his way of being comfortable. Just gotta find your comfortable handling the cue and body format. everybody is different.
 
^^^^^^^^^^

What Jpool said is important in that one has to be in a position that will ALLOW the arm to deliver the cue in line at ALL power levels.

What you show is a snooker stance. Snooker has much smaller & LIGHTER balls. Hence they seldom need as much power as games such as 9 or 10 ball.

I use what would be called a modified snooker stance.

1. my left knee is not locked out

2. the cue is under my dominant eye & not under my chin

3. my head is low but not that low, I think this CAN be very important, depending on one's body & flexibility the angle of the head when low can be very different & can make some look out of the top of the eye sockets, we do not walk around all day looking out of the top of our eye sockets, try walking around in your house with your eyes that way or with your head tilted to the side, you need to get as low as possible but with a good & comfortable head & level eye position

4, getting low can jam up the arm swing so the body has to be 'hipped' or turned enough to allow a good straight arm swing, I think a good check is to put the cue ball in the jaws of a corner pocket & place an object ball about 1/2 way to the diagonal corner (it does not need to be straight) & shoot those shots. You may find that your stroke is jammed up by just that bit of need to jack up just that bit, a slight body adjustment can free up the stroke.

Emulating others can certainly be good, but a perfect copy is not always a good fit. Tweak things until you find your version that works for you.

Best of Luck & Wishes,
Rick
 
Last edited:
Also gotta figure how how slow,medium or fast you are as a player, Now I am a slow and fast player but depend on how the table look. I am more a fast player cause I feel like I am reading the table like I am reading a book left to right...... I get down and know where to shoot and take 2 or 3 strokes then shoot.

If I know what I am doing and keep going the same speed I am good but I stop or feel lost while I am down and stroking....then get back up and breathe couple times then once you relax then get down and get your speed back.

I am fast player most of the time and I keep going and keep the same speed,same strokes and timing when I am down aiming, if I take a long time and not shoot it, then I know I feel something is off then I get up chalk and take time look at table again then once I am relax and know what I was going to do then I get down and shoot. Gotta find your comfort foot work,own strokes,own eyes of aiming, and speed and time. everybody have a different style and nobody can tell you how or what to do on the stance and shooting style. like CJ wiley says,....we not perfect we human which is very true, we gotta find our own way of doing thing.
 
So you stand like Steve Davis... You shouldn't have any problems then :) I'm joking, obviously.

Problems arise when you hit a shot hard because of one major problem; you don't hit the CB where you intend. Most common is a movement of some kind in the body because people don't think they can generate enough power from just the use of their elbow. You can. I've seen people physically rise up as though they're going to hit the CB back into the 1980s. Stay down, and keep your head still. Keeping the head still and concentrating on that forces your entire body to be still. Secondly, people grip tighter the harder they hit. The cue isn't going to fly out of your hand, so keep it tight enough so you won't let go, but not too tight.

Practice strokes... Don't move back and forward at the speed of light. Sure, make them quicker, but not so quick that they're veering off line, because your final stroke will veer off line, too. The final back stroke should be controlled, and slow. Try and have a pause at the end of your back stroke before your final stroke. If this screws up your timing you can always pause at the CB before your final (slow) back stroke. You can even use both pauses.

Try keeping the upper arm where your biceps and triceps are located perfectly still when using practice strokes. When you power the ball in you may have a tendency to drop the arm, and that's fine, but when using practice strokes don't drop it, especially not in the stance used in the picture.

Bottom line is you aren't hitting the cue ball where you intended. People on here can offer advice but its down to you to develop a way to hit where you intend.

Have fun and good luck.
 
Pidge said:
So you stand like Steve Davis... You shouldn't have any problems then :) I'm joking, obviously.

Problems arise when you hit a shot hard because of one major problem; you don't hit the CB where you intend. Most common is a movement of some kind in the body because people don't think they can generate enough power from just the use of their elbow. You can. I've seen people physically rise up as though they're going to hit the CB back into the 1980s. Stay down, and keep your head still. Keeping the head still and concentrating on that forces your entire body to be still. Secondly, people grip tighter the harder they hit. The cue isn't going to fly out of your hand, so keep it tight enough so you won't let go, but not too tight.

Practice strokes... Don't move back and forward at the speed of light. Sure, make them quicker, but not so quick that they're veering off line, because your final stroke will veer off line, too. The final back stroke should be controlled, and slow. Try and have a pause at the end of your back stroke before your final stroke. If this screws up your timing you can always pause at the CB before your final (slow) back stroke. You can even use both pauses.

Try keeping the upper arm where your biceps and triceps are located perfectly still when using practice strokes. When you power the ball in you may have a tendency to drop the arm, and that's fine, but when using practice strokes don't drop it, especially not in the stance used in the picture.

Bottom line is you aren't hitting the cue ball where you intended. People on here can offer advice but its down to you to develop a way to hit where you intend.

Have fun and good luck.
Click to expand...
thanks for all the reply,,,i try your advice and i fell different from now,,,i can make a power darw much better and any power shot i try to have pause to last stroke and concentrating/fucosing on cue ball center,,lower upper part and yes i make it....maybe i dont hit the center from the first time i make a hard/power stroke because i think arm al;ignment problem....have a PAUSE to the final stroke and yes it is important
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top