GLI application is flawed

kep2

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Round 2 clearly shows that GLI included statistics from Round 1. That explains why Deuel advanced to the HOF round and not Williams.

An interesting scenario now is:

What if a HOFer figures in a tie with a non-HOFer? How is the GLI going to be applied in order to determine who advances to the Final Round? Certainly, the HOFer will be armed with only his HOF GLI while the non-HOFer has 3 rounds of GLI with him.

I pretty much know how IPT is going to settle this scenario. In that case, Charlie Williams was definitely screwed!
 
CW will cash his $6200 and start a new players org. Call for an all out sanctioning of all the IPT events and claim the players contract with the IPT is invalid because they were forced to sign it under duress (having to dress up with a coat and tie)

Every player should be aware of the rules. If not, they have to accept the penalties.

Charlie is no exception.

I will take a 5 game GLI and $30,000 appearence fee over having to play two days ANYTIME.
 
I am pretty sure that the IPT will tweak the format as needed for future events if they feel it needs to be tweaked.

John
 
I agree that the GLI should focus on the current round only. Otherwise it doesn't offer a fair comparison of the players... which is what the round robin format is supposed to create.

That said, I really like round robin. It's great to see how all the different players match up. :cool:
 
kep2 said:
Round 2 clearly shows that GLI included statistics from Round 1. That explains why Deuel advanced to the HOF round and not Williams.

An interesting scenario now is:

What if a HOFer figures in a tie with a non-HOFer? How is the GLI going to be applied in order to determine who advances to the Final Round? Certainly, the HOFer will be armed with only his HOF GLI while the non-HOFer has 3 rounds of GLI with him.

I pretty much know how IPT is going to settle this scenario. In that case, Charlie Williams was definitely screwed!
With Deuel and van den Berg's defeats, my scenario did not materialize. Well, non-complications are always good!
 
onepocketchump said:
I am pretty sure that the IPT will tweak the format as needed for future events if they feel it needs to be tweaked.
I surely hope so. It could use some improvement. There's not much a player can do if their opponent gets up and runs 5 racks on them. I think it should be some sort of win/loss ratio, and I don't think it should carry over from one bracket to the next.

As a side note, I was looking at the charts when Deno was explaining to Kevin how it worked. And this was on Day 3.
 
I wasn't sold on it at first, but now I think this GLI thing is great, and that it's even better that it DOES carry over. This way, nobody's going to let up for even a game, knowing it could come back to bite them for some serious dough later. What could be better for the fans?

If you knew you'd get a fresh slate in the next round, nothing would stop people lying down in some of those final matches that are meaningless for one player but ultimately decide who else advances. As for it seeming unfair that the HOFers' number comes from just one round, well, fairness wasn't the issue when they were seeded into the third round. Fan appeal, drama, etc. were the motivation. I take it as a one-time deal to create interest.
 
Carrying forward prevents a player already going forward from dumping to help a buddy go forward. It still doesn't prevent a player who's eliminated from dumping to help a buddy's GLI going forward though. That being said I do think it's better to carry it than not carry it.

GLI still suffers in that it can be affected by the "strength" of the flight. Total wins/losses, percentages, etc. are also skewed by strength of flight though. The only way to completely eliminate "luck of the draw" is to have one huge Round Robin bracket. The problem with that is that 43 players all playing 42 races to 8 would kill the older players. (It's not good to have your contestants keeling over on camera :eek: )

Anything you come up with is going to be a compromise. One thing they could have done is "adjusted" the drawing so you don't play someone you already played until as late as possible. Karen Corr and Nick van den Berg for example, played each other on Day 1 and Day 2. There were enough flights that they could have avoided that.
 
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