Gold crown 6100 aka gold crown 1 history wanted

jimmycue

jimmycue

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I just bought a 1963 Brunswick gold crown and was looking around on web trying to find history of these tables. When did Brunswick start making them and when did they change to gold crown 2's? Also what if any differences are there between the two? The table is going to be installed in about a week and cant wait. Here is a pic of table.
 

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One of our rooms in syracuse ny has 12 and they still play good.
The one you have looks in original condition.
 
rustystrokes said:
One of our rooms in syracuse ny has 12 and they still play good.
The one you have looks in original condition.
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I will be the 3rd owner and from what i seen when i looked at table it is in pristine condition. It has always been a home table.
 
Gci

jimmycue said:
I just bought a 1963 Brunswick gold crown and was looking around on web trying to find history of these tables. When did Brunswick start making them and when did they change to gold crown 2's? Also what if any differences are there between the two? The table is going to be installed in about a week and cant wait. Here is a pic of table.
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When I first entered a pool room it was this year. A sw suburb of Chicago, we had 16 GC I's and all the wall racks were matching skirt colors, they also had blue backed worm wall racks and orange ones, would think the off white to be the third color. A while back in length I wrote about the differences and they are significant, other than the original ball counters being the best ever made. Flint based slate, a somewhat orangeish color to it and this slate if cracked was repairable. The legs were not adjustable and the slate frames were made up of a REAL thick poplar (to raise the fixed bed height to the proper level) and the slate frames held up well, especially with all the staples that they go thru in their life time. Other than that, the pocket irons had barrell holes the anchor bolts went thru and this kept em from gettin loose anytime soon.

BUT MY QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND I AM SURE COBRA HAS NO IDEA, WHICH PLAYER DID BRUNSWICK CHOOSE TO DESIGN THIS NEXT GENERATION TABLE, OR WAS IT ONE OF THEIR IN HOUSE MECHANICS THAT GOT TOGETHER WITH MOSCONI?
 
Island Drive said:
When I first entered a pool room it was this year. A sw suburb of Chicago, we had 16 GC I's and all the wall racks were matching skirt colors, they also had blue backed worm wall racks and orange ones, would think the off white to be the third color. A while back in length I wrote about the differences and they are significant, other than the original ball counters being the best ever made. Flint based slate, a somewhat orangeish color to it and this slate if cracked was repairable. The legs were not adjustable and the slate frames were made up of a REAL thick poplar (to raise the fixed bed height to the proper level) and the slate frames held up well, especially with all the staples that they go thru in their life time. Other than that, the pocket irons had barrell holes the anchor bolts went thru and this kept em from gettin loose anytime soon.

BUT MY QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND I AM SURE COBRA HAS NO IDEA, WHICH PLAYER DID BRUNSWICK CHOOSE TO DESIGN THIS NEXT GENERATION TABLE, OR WAS IT ONE OF THEIR IN HOUSE MECHANICS THAT GOT TOGETHER WITH MOSCONI?
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Thanks for info Bill,
The owner of the table did tell me that there was a panel on back of the wall rack but removed it so his wife could see the wall paper. So you said the slates were from Flint as in Flint Mich? Not from Italy?
 
Not RED

Awesome table, but do yourself a favor and lose the red cloth. Playing with red Master chalk for a few hours leaves you looking like you just stabbed someone to death. And your shafts acquire an ugly pink patina.

Ron F
 
jimmycue said:
I just bought a 1963 Brunswick gold crown and was looking around on web trying to find history of these tables. When did Brunswick start making them and when did they change to gold crown 2's? Also what if any differences are there between the two? The table is going to be installed in about a week and cant wait. Here is a pic of table.
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The easiest way to tell is that the GCI usually has a plastic nameplate and the under rail discs that the rail bolts go into are a figure "8" shape (actually left over from the Aniversary's) . The GCII usually has an aluminum name plate and round under rail discs with 4 wood screws holding them on the early ones and later went to inserts that go into a slot behind the cushion rubber where you only see the hole the rail bolt goes through.
 
jimmycue said:
Thanks for info Bill,
The owner of the table did tell me that there was a panel on back of the wall rack but removed it so his wife could see the wall paper. So you said the slates were from Flint as in Flint Mich? Not from Italy?
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The actual slate was flint, flint slates a somewhat burnt orangish color to it, run your hand across it quickly and matters get warm, or strike a match on it, if they are the greyslates of the GCII's then the playing surface is too low. As for the back panels in the original GC wall racks, they actually helped keep the framework one solid piece and being in a pool room the wall would not get marks from cue tips, I would save the back panel if you still have it, personally they are the best commercial wall racks I've ever seem made, simple and very functional. GCI's were the bulk of the tables that went into many college community center/game rooms, seems like back in the 60's every major state college had a pool room with anywhere from 8 to 20 GCI's also, back then for colleges, Brunswick made special leaning/angles that were mounted to the wall at the foot of the table, they were at a curved 90 degree angle/wrapped with some kind of grey carpet and you leaned/half squatted your butt on em during your wait/turn to shoot, pretty cool because the frames were mounted about 3' off the ground and when the cleaning people came in there was NO furniture to move. I always thought this was a perfect item to mount on a wall at the foot of a table where allot of one pocket was played, your never really sitting down all the way, kinda of a 1/2 squat.
 
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Awesome Table

I second losing the red. Go with green or blue. This has been argues a gazillion times over. I, myself, went with gold Simonis for my Antique Brunswick last year before finding this sight and am already thinking of switching.

Don't use that light bar either, definitely not going to cut it (unless you have other light in your room). You need a 4 shade at minimum, but preferably the long fluorescent bulbs instead.

Post pics when you get it set up. We all love to be jealous on others' rooms for some reason...
 
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