Gravity cue and 360 trainer

I've played at Niels club a few times and spoken to him about the gravity cue, in my opinion its a clever idea. I've also had a go with one and it does actually work. It doesn't actually stop you twisting your wrist on the shot, however it makes it apparent by the feeling when you have. Then with practice you can correct the mistake with the help of the cue. The idea did not seem to be recieved that well in the snooker comunity, but I cannot see why. I think very few of the people that disliked the idea had ever seen one of these, let alone tryed one. The only draw back is that by the nature of the idea, the cue needs to be on the heavy side. That said american cues tend to be heavier than snooker cues anyway. I would say to anyone, if you get the chance to try one, give it a go before you dismiss it
 
How does the gravity cue prevent the lateral arm movement discussed in the video? The 360 seems to be an adaptation of a similar training aid used in golf.
Mr H
 
I think it might work. Very clever idea. The weight reminds you of the line you need to be on. Also, the spring helps groove the stroke as well. That spring is much like the medicus driver and does pretty much the same thing. If your stroke is straight, you will have no problem.

The only problem, it won't work on unorthodox strokes like Busti, Frost and other guys who play more so by feel than the mechanics like Buddy Hall, Allison Fisher....

This training aid will have everyone using a standard pool stroke, just as the PGA has one correct, standard swing type for all the pros.... with the exception of body type.
 
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Mr Hoppe said:
How does the gravity cue prevent the lateral arm movement discussed in the video? The 360 seems to be an adaptation of a similar training aid used in golf.
Mr H
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It is weighted along the bottom of the cue, you can see this when he tries to roll the cue on the table and it doesn't want to. Its a strange comparison but i guess its like those weeble wobbly toys. This means you have to hold the cue the same way round on every shot (most snooker players do this anyway). So when you twist your wrist, you are fighting against the weight
 
Mr Hoppe said:
How does the gravity cue prevent the lateral arm movement discussed in the video? The 360 seems to be an adaptation of a similar training aid used in golf.
Mr H
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Hi Mr Hoppe.
Only just stumbled upon this section of the forum, hence the late reply.
The Gravity Cue carries an average 15% more lateral stability than a standard cue of the same shape, weight, length and balance point, this is due to its lower centre of gravity. Cutting a long story short, it just comes down to a basic law of physics were any object with a lower centre of gravity holds its line more readily than another object of comparable specification but for a more regular centre of gravity. It's this coupled with the rotational resist that encourages the players stroke to be straighter and smoother.
Resistance testing was done on Snooker spec cues with the help of Liverpool John Moore's University Engineering Development Centre. These tests are yet to be done on American Pool Gravity Cues but the initial prototypes feel stronger again than their Snooker Equivalent. This is due to the thicker Pool butt. A thicker butt allows the keel to be even further away from the centre thus creating more pull.
On the 360, your'e right there is something similar in golf I've come across, a bendy club, I think it works on tempo in the swing.
Cheers.
Neil. :)
 
I made a handle for a customer and the weight was off center.
It played fine ,but the customer did not like the fact that it sat in 1 place all the time.
I ended up making another handle for them. I still have it somewhere.
For my cues, it did not alter the total weight, just it's position to centreline.
Neil
 
conetip said:
I made a handle for a customer and the weight was off center.
It played fine ,but the customer did not like the fact that it sat in 1 place all the time.
I ended up making another handle for them. I still have it somewhere.
For my cues, it did not alter the total weight, just it's position to centreline.
Neil
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Hi Neil.
What we found when developing the Gravity Cue was that you either create an extremely strong bias or you don't do it at all and it's this strong bias we have patented. Anything less and the player tends to have to search for the correct position. Acquiring the optimum effect proved to be a real pain and was the main reason the concept took us so long to finalise.
Cheers.
Neil.
 
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