Grinding off brass bevel on 5/16 x 14 shaft?

scassidy77

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On the 5/16 x 14 thread shafts there is always that bras bevel that only fits certain brands. The bevel is such that it makes the shaft only fit on a Schon cue, or a falcon, or other brand. So I have to have a different shaft for each of my butts.
My question is what is the point of the bevel? Why not just grind the bevel down flat and then the shaft will fit on any cue that has 5/16 x 14 thread? Will it matter if it's flat or would you even be able to tell the difference it the hit?
Most other pin styles are flat already.
 
...would you even be able to tell the difference it the hit?
Some years ago a bunch of experienced players were asked to hit with a few different cues with their joints covered up to see if they could tell the difference between metal joints and non-metal joints. They couldn't.

I'm pretty sure nobody would be able to tell the difference between "beveled" and non-"beveled".

pj
chgo
 
If you ever tightened a Schön you know the butt and shaft are matched and it's what it's giving it that tight snug fit. On some brands they are not matched and then it doesn't make a difference. The most traditional ones are covered with wood - Balabushka, Tascarerella.

PS: it's called a pilot btw, hence piloted joints.

Julian
 
The problem may be the pin size and the insert. 5/16x14 pins and inserts are not all the same size. Older Schon pins are smaller diameter and their inserts are fitted to their pins. Their shafts do not fit pins that are wider diameter.

Even if you got the pin and insert to fit, the SS joint may not accept the tenon of the shaft pilot. Custom cue makers often use joint pilots that are slightly larger than 0.500". Nearly all of my cues are 5/16x14, but unfortunately, the shafts and butts are not interchangeable. Shaft pilots can be sanded, but there are some cuemakers whose shafts I will not alter.

I thought this would be easier, too.
 
I had a guy bring in his shaft for a tip install. When he came back to pick it up he asked me why his cue has a open space between the the shaft and the butt. I figured a piece of the collar was missing on the butt side of the joint, as the shaft’s collar was fine. He pulls out the butt and it’s an unpiloted butt that he’d been screwing this piloted joint shaft to!

I explained the problem to him and wound up cutting the pilot off the shaft in my lathe. Worked great then.


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