Grizzly or Enco?

josie

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I am going to purchase my first full size metal lathe soon(13X40). What are your opinions on Grizzly vs Enco? Would it be worth it to get the taper attachment? I am thinking it might come in handy to do points in butt sleeves. Also, is there an indexing attachment sold for these lathes or do I just need to try to make one? I have a porper model B that I cut my points on now but would like another alternative. I would also like to know how good it works to offset your tailstock for tapering.

Thanks for the input. I am also open to any other suggestions for setting up my new lathe.
 
I am going to purchase my first full size metal lathe soon(13X40). What are your opinions on Grizzly vs Enco? Would it be worth it to get the taper attachment? I am thinking it might come in handy to do points in butt sleeves. Also, is there an indexing attachment sold for these lathes or do I just need to try to make one? I have a porper model B that I cut my points on now but would like another alternative. I would also like to know how good it works to offset your tailstock for tapering.

Thanks for the input. I am also open to any other suggestions for setting up my new lathe.


Individual results may very and often do based on opinions, but the general thought on pecking order, from worse to best is:

Harbor Freight, Enco, Grizzly, Jet

They are all generally the same, but supposedly some have tighter tolerances out of the box than others. Also, Jet has onsite repair service. You have to ship things back to Grizzly if they can't walk you through fixes. I bought a Jet, and the onsite repair service ended up being very valuable. Again, individual results vary.

There are no indexing attachments sold for these lathes. You can rig something up. JR's Farm (name is Frank I think) posted a very nice modification that incorporated adding an indexing plate to the back of his chuck, and rigging up a pin system to use it for indexing. You can also mount an indexer to the ways and go that route.

As for the stock taper attachments, they are almost useless for cuemaking. I guess they might work for points in sleeves fine, but you still need the indexing. If you are going to taper butts and shafts on the lathe, you would need to set up tapering for those, which usually means you can cut points with the same tapering attachment you build. If you add an indexer to the ways to cut points, you just angle the indexer the appropriate amount for cutting points, and you don't need the tapering attachment.

I use a tapering attachment rather than offset my tailstock, and can't really say if it is better, but theoretically, when between centers and the tailstock is offset, the center hole is not riding square on the center, so it can't be as true as controlling the cutter instead. I'm not saying it isn't good enough though, plenty of people offset tailstocks to taper butts.

Kelly
 
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I am going to purchase my first full size metal lathe soon(13X40). What are your opinions on Grizzly vs Enco? Would it be worth it to get the taper attachment? I am thinking it might come in handy to do points in butt sleeves. Also, is there an indexing attachment sold for these lathes or do I just need to try to make one? I have a porper model B that I cut my points on now but would like another alternative. I would also like to know how good it works to offset your tailstock for tapering.

Thanks for the input. I am also open to any other suggestions for setting up my new lathe.

Kelly Guy was right on with his info. I might suggest a indexable boring head
for the tailstock instead of moving the tailstock. It is a pain aligning the
tailstock back to zero once it has been moved. Unless I lived next door to Grizzley I would go for the Jet (I have a Grizzley).
 
Thanks for the info. I am suprised what you guys are telling me about Grizzly. I had the impression they were better than Enco. I had planned on using a boring head to offset for tapering but thanks again for the responses.
 
Thanks for the info. I am suprised what you guys are telling me about Grizzly. I had the impression they were better than Enco. I had planned on using a boring head to offset for tapering but thanks again for the responses.

I ranked them higher than Enco, not sure what you are surprised about. Hope we helped.

Kelly
 
Look closely, and you might notice some of the grizzly and enco lathes are VERY similar.
 
Look closely, and you might notice some of the grizzly and enco lathes are VERY similar.

They are probably built in the same plant just badged differently. I bought an Enco new in 1992 and have had absolutely not a minutes worth of trouble out of it once I worked out the initial bugs which were primarily my fault. I've also got a Jet. I like them both. Grizzly stocks more parts than Enco so I am told so that would be a benefit if you had trouble. A Jet would definitely be a nicer lathe straight out of the crate but their price is about double that of an Enco, Grizzly, Birmingham and such. In the end they are almost all alike. It depends on how much you want to save in price by doing the cleaning, tuning and such yourself.

Dick
 
I see that now. I misread your post. Thanks for the help Kelly_Guy.
 
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