Gs Shaft Machine

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Hi All,The gs shaft machine will make your cue building much easyer,if you are creative you can do a lot more with this machine,cutting shafts are a pain, with this machine it is very easy...you can cut all tapers that cue builders use, you can cut 1/8 or up to a 1/4 cuts and more if you want,you can even turn square block to a dowel,with a little creative,i run 4 machines one for shafts and one for butts, and the other 2 to turn squares down to rounds,it takes 2 min. for a pass that is fast,plus you can turn the speed down if you like ,it will cut smoother at a lower speed,The saw blades last for years,i have used mine for five years and still have lots left before i have to sharpen ,it is very quiet also if you get the right table saw, belt drive is the best for less noise.........so if u want less work with great results this machine is for you...........plus i am always here to help,but it is very easy,it runs it self. Greg (gsirca@yahoo.com)
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Will this cut a pro taper or will it only cut straight angled tapers in one pass? It appears that one center raises or lowers to set a straight angle like butts and carom shafts use. Is that correct? If so how can it cut the curved pro taper? The price is very good. If it will cut pro tapers in one continuous pass you should sell a ton of them.
 
Cue man... you know what this shaft machine will do, better then anybody,so why would you ask.....if it was good enough Jerry Franklin it is good enough for all cue builders. Here is a little history....from your site

Jerry Franklin Inducted 2006
Jerry founded South West Cues in 1982, which soon became one of the most sought after cues out there among serious players. The waiting list is and has been, not months, but years to get one of the SW cues. They developed a rock solid hit that is much sought after. The short joint rings design that you see on so many cues now was first made popular by SW. SW also popularized the very tight fitting wood to wood joint and very close joint size tolerances with interchangeable shafts.
It was at SW cues that Jerry and another cuemaker David Kersenbrock made the first table saw tapering machine. This type of machine can now be found in many cuemakers shops. Jerry was always open to showing other cuemakers his shop and once said, "If someone knows enough to ask the right question, they deserve an answer." SW cues probably have influenced more of the newer cuemakers than any other cue out there. Jerry passed away in 1996 and is missed by all who knew him. His company is still going under his wife Laurie's leadership. We think Jerry would be proud of that.
 
This is Jerry Franklin's shaft design

Are you saying that this is patterned after Jerry Franklin's design, or that it is a shaft saw machine so it has to be able to do the same thing? I've seen a few of the posts you have made for this and Cueman, JoeyinCali, BilliardBum, and Cuedog have all asked about the compound taper ability. No where has it been posted that I can find in your 10 posts. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with your name, so perhaps you worked with Jerry Franklin at Southwest, but with the deals you are giving on the cues you are posting, I can't see that. I'm not trying to knock your work or your machine, but you haven't posted any answers to how the taper portion works. Would we have to mill plates to bolt to the bottom of your saw machine for different tapers? Do you have a few included? We know what a saw machine is capable of, we want to know what is included with YOURS. How does the tapering portion work on YOUR saw machine? $1300 seems like a great deal to myself and to others who seem interested in your designs but if you want them to sell, post the answers for all to see, so that they sell. No offense is meant, but why would you attack someone who in his post states, "The price is very good. If it will cut pro tapers in one continuous pass you should sell a ton of them." As far as I know he doesn't even sell a saw machine, but he does sell a ton of equipment to up and coming cue builders. And if you solidify the answer to his question, you just got a free endorsement. It doesn't make business sense to me. Help us to understand why we want to buy your saw machine. You have my rapt attention, and there is no sarcasm in that statement.

Sorry so long guys.
 
gsirca said:
Cue man... you know what this shaft machine will do, better then anybody,so why would you ask.....if it was good enough Jerry Franklin it is good enough for all cue builders. Here is a little history....from your site

Jerry Franklin Inducted 2006
Jerry founded South West Cues in 1982, which soon became one of the most sought after cues out there among serious players. The waiting list is and has been, not months, but years to get one of the SW cues. They developed a rock solid hit that is much sought after. The short joint rings design that you see on so many cues now was first made popular by SW. SW also popularized the very tight fitting wood to wood joint and very close joint size tolerances with interchangeable shafts.
It was at SW cues that Jerry and another cuemaker David Kersenbrock made the first table saw tapering machine. This type of machine can now be found in many cuemakers shops. Jerry was always open to showing other cuemakers his shop and once said, "If someone knows enough to ask the right question, they deserve an answer." SW cues probably have influenced more of the newer cuemakers than any other cue out there. Jerry passed away in 1996 and is missed by all who knew him. His company is still going under his wife Laurie's leadership. We think Jerry would be proud of that.
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I am not sure what nerve I touched here, but I did not get a answer. The machine David and Jerry designed has a hinge system to allow the cue to follow a taper bar, thus being able to create a pro taper or any other taper you have a bar for. I do not sell saw machines even though I own four of them, so I was not trying to take business away from you. I was asking a question that I felt needed to be addressed. I do not see a taper bar, on this machine. If it only cuts straight tapers then all you had to say was it only cuts straight tapers. It is still a great deal if that is all it will do. It would serve the purpose for roughing in shafts and totally tapering butts. Or it would serve the whole tapering process for carom and snooker cues. If you oversell an item you will have unhappy customers. If you tell it like it is then you will have happy customers. I was just wanting you to clarify what it will and will not do. Here is your quote: "you can cut all tapers that cue builders use". The machine does not look like it has a taper bar to create a curved taper like the pro taper so I was wanting to understand how "you can cut all tapers that cue builders use"????? Just explain to us how it does it.
 
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I spent quite a bit of time today with Greg on the phone. If it was taken by any that I was putting Greg's machine down that is not the case. His design is very different from the four saw machines I own or any other ones I have seen, so I was confused about how it worked. There is not a taper bar on his machine, but he does have what he calls a fin, that can raise the joint end of the cue up to cut a compound taper or a pro taper in one pass. You can easily make extra fins to create different shaft tapers. It is fairly complicated to explain on a written forum how it works, but after having him explain it to me, I am impressed with the ingenuity and simplicity of how it works. It does cut cone tapers and it also will cut compound or pro tapers. Having eliminated the taper bars made it to where he could build these saw machines for about half what others have cost. Since the fin system is a little hard to explain on a written forum I would suggest anyone that wants to inquire about his shaft machine call him. After hearing how it works explained in our telephone conversation I would have to think it is one of the best deals out there. You are getting a lot of cutting capability for a very resonable price. I use saw machines myself, but have no desire to build them, so I will say at this time he has the least expensive machine that will do the job that I know of. A small shop with one of my Deluxe lathes to do all the cue assembling on, along with his machine to taper with, is like having an extra employee for free. While you are putting on joint rings, ferrules, joints and such on the cue lathe, the saw machine is over there tapering the cues for you. You just have to load it and go back to your lathe. That is how I have done it for years.
 
There are some people that are good for the cue industy,and some that are bad.Chris Hightower (cueman) is one that is good for the industy.

Thanks Chris
 
To all those cue makers and builders interested in Greg Circa's cutting & taper setup, Greg is a STAND UP GUY willing to help, share his knowledge, and make sure his customer's questions are answered. I bought one and am extremely happy with all of Greg's follow up help. It's my opinion Greg's will go the extra mile to ensure customer satisfaction. He has for me. If you are thinking about this cutting machine, talk to Greg, you will be happy you did!! It's money well spent!!!
Thanks Greg!! I greatly appeciate all you have done.
John jkmarshall_cues
 
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Gene is Cuedog Is'nt he? I'm alittle:confused: myself. BTW what ever became of mean Gene the dancing machine?:D Anyone remember him?

Greg C. not to be confused.
 
OOps, sorry for the name switch, too little sleep, up late, fixed it, thanks. Now I feel like a total idiot!!!

Sorry Greg, (aka Gene) (<:
John
 
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