Heavier playing cue

StormHotRod300

StormHotRod300

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Ok, I experimented with adding weight to my Espiritu cue, today, and really liked how it felt! I took out the weight bolt which was a 3/8's thread. Now the cue weight was 19.1.

I looked for the longest/heaviest bolt i could find, but none would screw in far enough. So i opted for a 5/16th x 6inch bolt and it slide all the way into the butt of the cue, and wont ever be able to come out lol ( oops!!! )

But anyways it brought the weight of the cue up ALOT. around 22oz or 23oz's.

But stroking the cue felt so nice, plus just moving the CB around the table felt so easy, and i didnt have to muscle anything unless i was going several rails.

Now most guys i know want a light cue around 19 or 18oz's.

I've also heard that several of the older guys / phillipino's like the heavier cues.

And i also heard Efrens cue is around 23oz's.

I'm curious to hear what the general public has to say.
 
kinda wondering

I'm kinda thinking that the heavy cues are going to make a come back if the IPT survives long. Light cues and fast cloth go together. The old heavy cues were used with slow cloth. I'm thinking that the IPT players may drift towards heavier cues. If so many others will follow because that that is "what the pro's use."

Hu


StormHotRod300 said:
Ok, I experimented with adding weight to my Espiritu cue, today, and really liked how it felt! I took out the weight bolt which was a 3/8's thread. Now the cue weight was 19.1.

I looked for the longest/heaviest bolt i could find, but none would screw in far enough. So i opted for a 5/16th x 6inch bolt and it slide all the way into the butt of the cue, and wont ever be able to come out lol ( oops!!! )

But anyways it brought the weight of the cue up ALOT. around 22oz or 23oz's.

But stroking the cue felt so nice, plus just moving the CB around the table felt so easy, and i didnt have to muscle anything unless i was going several rails.

Now most guys i know want a light cue around 19 or 18oz's.

I've also heard that several of the older guys / phillipino's like the heavier cues.

And i also heard Efrens cue is around 23oz's.

I'm curious to hear what the general public has to say.
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You may have accidently found a better balance point for you. Too bad you can't take out the weight and check this out. It shouldn't have changed much. A cue repairman can help you with this.

As far as power is concerned IMO cue speed and technique play a bigger role. I hit 9 and sometimes 10 rails with a cue <18 oz.

But in the end it's all what you like and what works best.
 
it's also similar to what people say about a hevaier cue for breaking. some say the lighter the faster, but others counter by saying that it takes less effort to reach an equivalent speed with a heavier cue. hmmmm
 
Let the cue do the work...........

StormHotRod300 said:
Ok, I experimented with adding weight to my Espiritu cue, today, and really liked how it felt! I took out the weight bolt which was a 3/8's thread. Now the cue weight was 19.1.

I looked for the longest/heaviest bolt i could find, but none would screw in far enough. So i opted for a 5/16th x 6inch bolt and it slide all the way into the butt of the cue, and wont ever be able to come out lol ( oops!!! )

But anyways it brought the weight of the cue up ALOT. around 22oz or 23oz's.

But stroking the cue felt so nice, plus just moving the CB around the table felt so easy, and i didnt have to muscle anything unless i was going several rails.

Now most guys i know want a light cue around 19 or 18oz's.

I've also heard that several of the older guys / phillipino's like the heavier cues.

And i also heard Efrens cue is around 23oz's.

I'm curious to hear what the general public has to say.
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I say let the cue do the work. That is why i prefer a heavier cue. The cue that i play with now is around 20oz. I would prefer it to be lil heavier. As for as playing with a 23oz cue........well I think that would be a bit too heavy.................
 
bells said:
I say let the cue do the work. That is why i prefer a heavier cue. The cue that i play with now is around 20oz. I would prefer it to be lil heavier. As for as playing with a 23oz cue........well I think that would be a bit too heavy.................
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Yes, I agree. A heavier cue allows the player to smooth the ball and get more actions.

Wu plays with a SW about 22 oz.

I talked to a local player, Stan T, last week, and he plays with a very heavy cue. I tried it and it must at least weight 20 oz. He showed me how he made jack up shots by just letting the cue do the work. It was really smooth the way he hit those shots.

Richard
 
i agree with the heavier cue thoughts.but what about weight displacement?
what are the advantages of a cue with the weight forward,and what are the advantages of the weight being in the back?
 
Different

For each and every individual this is different. If you like the heavy cue, and most improtantly your having no problems with cue ball control for the next shot, then use the heavy cue.

I personally found I play better with the lighter cue, and my cue ball control just came about instantly when I lighted mine up from a 21 to about 18.5.

A friend of mine though is killer with a 21.

Now as far as breaking I break consistent with a 24.5, and most people will argue that I should be using lighter. However I have one of the most consistent breaks in my pool league, so why should I change it? LOL
 
Being a 3 cushion player mostly on unheated tables i canot get used to a lighter cue and find my stroke being more comfortable with my billiard cue.........mike
 
Cue weight discussions are probably as old as the game itself.
I'm not that familiar with the average weight of cues used by professional pool players but I believe it's generally heavier than 3 Cushion players where most pros are in the 18 oz range, give or take an ounce. They all get tremendous action and distance hitting much heavier balls than pool.

I've found that balance point and shaft taper and general cue construction effect power more than weight. I recently bought a custom cue and was having a time getting used to it. I decide to take the weight bold out (30 grams). It didn't solve anything but I found no difference in power.

Also as I mentioned before, sound technique also adds to the transfer of energy. When your stroke is perfectly straight there's less loss of energy not to mention a loss in some of the variables that hinder our games.
 
Bca

I know for BCA and the IPT 25 ounce is the max. I am not sure for APA though. Stands to reason that 25 would be the max for most things though.

Besides when was the last time an event weighed your cue? LOL
 
Weight of cue ...

I have pretty much used heavier cues in playing for 44 years. Shot for years with a 21 oz.. Went to a 20.2 oz, and I am comfortable with that. Feels right all around. I have a 19.5 oz break/jump cue, and I am comfortable with that.

I have given much consideration to the weight of cues, breaking, your form and how far a players grip and bridge are apart (affected many times by height), etc..

It is extremely hard to express correctly what should feel right to a player as opposed to what should not feel right, but here goes:

1) IMO, If a cue feels like it 'gets there' after your stroke (contact with cue ball) even a few milliseconds after the hit, then IMO, the cue is probably a little heavy for you.
2) IMO, If the cue feels like its forward motion is kept from being consistent in following through at the same momentum as your practice strokes (what I call the straw effect), then it is probably too light for you.
This occurs upon contact with the cue ball.

In other words, you should strive for a weight and feel of balance where your hit stroke does not feel different than warmup strokes, and that the delivery is constant and consistent for all types of hits on the cue ball, which means all types of shots. You should not feel like the cue is hitting you in the butt after contact, nor should you feel like you are trying to push the cue ball through water on your hit stroke. These are exaggerated examples I have given, but I am sure you can pick up on the inferences I have indicated.

These are the minute differences I look for in determining if a cue's weight and balance are right for me, and as they say, it works for me.
 
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