Heavy Jump/Break Cue Feasibility

[Jimmy_Betmore]

So, I've had this idea rolling around in my head for a while and would like your guys' opinions on how feasible something like this would be.

My buddy has a Jacoby Heavy Hitter break cue and I love that thing. I barely have to swing it and the rack explodes. I also like the idea of Jump/Break combo cues. But it's my understanding that as far as jump cues go, lighter is better. That may be a massive generalization, but you probably get my point.

Anyway, how feasible/practical would it be to make the jump part of the cue like normal, but make the handle/butt section extra heavy by introducing a combination pin/weight bolt to keep the weight at the front of the handle area? It would essentially be like the bolt that goes in the A joint of most short splice cues. But instead of being a single thread, part of it would be permanently threaded into the grip/hand section and the other part would be like a normal joint pin that threads into the jump section so it can be taken apart for jumping.

 

[Kim Bye]

You are overcomplicating things to the n'th degree.
Get a separate jump and break cue, it's always the the best option anyways. A jump/break combo cue will always skew towards making jumping easy, which means it's difficult to have a long follow through with a closed grip and a thicker shaft than strictly necessary for breaking. The tips are different as well. Most of my customers like a hard leather tip like Samsara, Kamui SAI etc. While those work for jump cues as well, I feel a tip like Horo White Storm, Taom 2.0 and similar tips work best for jumping.

 

[boogieman]

The tips are different as well. Most of my customers like a hard leather tip like Samsara, Kamui SAI etc. While those work for jump cues as well, I feel a tip like Horo White Storm, Taom 2.0 and similar tips work best for jumping.

I recently tired a Samsara on my jump cue and I think it plays like a turd. It would probably be perfect for a break cue. IMO it gets too much spin for a jump cue and it feels slightly muted compared to the synthetic jump tips.

Your advice is spot on perfect. A separate jump and break cue is the way to go. A combo isn't the best of both worlds, it's just kind of a compromise.

 

[Michael Webb]

So, I've had this idea rolling around in my head for a while and would like your guys' opinions on how feasible something like this would be.

My buddy has a Jacoby Heavy Hitter break cue and I love that thing. I barely have to swing it and the rack explodes. I also like the idea of Jump/Break combo cues. But it's my understanding that as far as jump cues go, lighter is better. That may be a massive generalization, but you probably get my point.

Anyway, how feasible/practical would it be to make the jump part of the cue like normal, but make the handle/butt section extra heavy by introducing a combination pin/weight bolt to keep the weight at the front of the handle area? It would essentially be like the bolt that goes in the A joint of most short splice cues. But instead of being a single thread, part of it would be permanently threaded into the grip/hand section and the other part would be like a normal joint pin that threads into the jump section so it can be taken apart for jumping.

You can do whatever you want if you define it, then do it.
You could make a quick release screw like McDermott did, but use a longer screw to get more weight,
Most 3/8x16 taps are 6 inches long, then make a brass insert for it.
As for tips,
Can of worms,
I want to suggest but I don't want to suggest!
Maybe I'll send you a message seeing that's becoming a thing again!

I wonder if Mr. Howerton could delete my history of post, then instead of trying to help everyone, I could pick and choose.
LMFAO

 

[Jimmy_Betmore]

You can do whatever you want if you define it, then do it.
You could make a quick release screw like McDermott did, but use a longer screw to get more weight,
Most 3/8x16 taps are 6 inches long, then make a brass insert for it.
As for tips,
Can of worms,
I want to suggest but I don't want to suggest!
Maybe I'll send you a message seeing that's becoming a thing again!

I wonder if Mr. Howerton could delete my history of post, then instead of trying to help everyone, I could pick and choose.
LMFAO

I'm not really looking to have one made. I've just had the idea floating around in my head for a while and knew that this was the place to get the most knowledgeable answers concerning whether it's realistically doable and/or practical.

And I'll be the first to agree that dedicated jumpers and breakers are usually going to be better than a jump/break combo. But there's obviously a demand for the combination because plenty of cue makers and companies have sold and continue to sell them. People like the convenience of not having to tote around a dedicated jump cue. As far as combining the J/B pin and the weight bolt goes, it seems like there are also plenty of players who prefer their cues to be more forward weighted. And I can't help but think moving the weight to the front of the grip area would keep the cue from being butt heavy.

 

[Michael Webb]

I'm not really looking to have one made. I've just had the idea floating around in my head for a while and knew that this was the place to get the most knowledgeable answers concerning whether it's realistically doable and/or practical.

And I'll be the first to agree that dedicated jumpers and breakers are usually going to be better than a jump/break combo. But there's obviously a demand for the combination because plenty of cue makers and companies have sold and continue to sell them. People like the convenience of not having to tote around a dedicated jump cue. As far as combining the J/B pin and the weight bolt goes, it seems like there are also plenty of players who prefer their cues to be more forward weighted. And I can't help but think moving the weight to the front of the grip area would keep the cue from being butt heavy.

It's been done.
And there's a tip/ferrule combo that does both
I've been doing it for a long time for Players on thier existing Cues.

 

[Jimmy_Betmore]

It's been done.

Thank ya', sir. I appreciate it.