Help ID this table?

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I'm looking to buy my first table and found this one. Anyone help ID it? I don't know too much about tables, but I'm really excited about this one. Thanks.
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I'm looking to buy my first table and found this one. Anyone help ID it? I don't know too much about tables, but I'm really excited about this one. Thanks.

It is a Taiwan knock-off of the Gold Crown - looks similar, but only
a pale imitation of a GC. There are many Gold Crowns available at low
prices these days. Pass on this pretender and buy a real GC.

Dale
 
It is a Taiwan knock-off of the Gold Crown - looks similar, but only
a pale imitation of a GC. There are many Gold Crowns available at low
prices these days. Pass on this pretender and buy a real GC.

Dale

Thank you so much for the tip. How can you tell? The legs?
 
That is what jumped out at me when I first looked at your pic. It looks nothing like a gold crown from the skirt down.
 
it could also be a GC that someone rebuit the bottom half on there own before getting rid of it get it checked by a table mechanic just my 2 cents on it but I have seen it done to match the look in a room to change the table looks
 
it could also be a GC that someone rebuit the bottom half on there own before getting rid of it get it checked by a table mechanic just my 2 cents on it but I have seen it done to match the look in a room to change the table looks

This is incorrect
 
I believe it is a Monticello or Monticello II. I owned one for a few years, but mine did not have score markers. It's a nice looking commercial wannabe. For casual home games it may be fine.

Here in Denver on Craigslist I can today see some great Gold Crowns going for $975 - $1300 for the real McCoy.

My table consisted of a lot of partical board, but from a distance, it could fool a lot of folks. Also no side pocket castings on mine. Mine came from the Velvet Rail in Cleveland when they were upgrading to true commercial tables.
 
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It's listed as a1972 Brunswick Monticello with only two owners for $300. I thought it sounded like a good deal for a Brunswick, but wanted to be sure it wasn't a scam. I'm moving and looking for a house to rent on CL and have been contacted three times in three days by scammers trying to rent out someone else's house. I was a bit hesitant so I thought I'd ask the experts. Then I found the manual and it looks the same. Is the Monticello a decent table? Or should I just save for a GC?

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Correct. There is no way the top half is a gold crown. Different rails, apron, ball box, everything..

So there is no way this is remotely legit?

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Even after seeing this :

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(Image from classic billiards)

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It's listed as a1972 Brunswick Monticello with only two owners for $300. I thought it sounded like a good deal for a Brunswick, but wanted to be sure it wasn't a scam. I'm moving and looking for a house to rent on CL and have been contacted three times in three days by scammers trying to rent out someone else's house. I was a bit hesitant so I thought I'd ask the experts. Then I found the manual and it looks the same. Is the Monticello a decent table? Or should I just save for a GC?

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See above. It was meant to look like a commercial table. Apparently my Monticello II was the later model without the score counters. It is what it is. For three hundred, it's a deal, but remember it costs just the same to move a top notch table as it does to move an impostor.

Find a local pool hall or bowling alley that has a Gold Crown. Compare its weight with the Monticello. It's apples and oranges. This is a good value, but you'll always be wishing you had waited for a true professional grade table. Mine would never roll just right. Also, bump your thigh against each table and see the balls move on the Monticello; not on the GC.

I bought my Monticello in 1974. It, along with every American car brand, represented the absolute bottom of quality control for nearly every product out there. They even removed the counters on my table to save a buck.

If you're in temporary quarters and on a tight budget, and can move and install the table yourself, it's fine for now. If you want a pro table that will literally last your lifetime, wait 'til funds permit a Gold Crown.

In closing, if you were my son, I'd remind you that with very few exceptions, you get what you pay for. It was true in the 70's and also applies equally to this discussion. I'm not trying to do a hatchet job on this table, but merely pointing out that it may not be what you think it is. Best of luck in your decision and keep us informed... :smile:
 
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