HELP identify these cues please

[el_h3fe]

I am just trying to determine 1st off if the materials look to be real in these pics. I know it is hard to get the info I am looking for from pictures but it is all that I have to go on right now. I am trying to see if the Ivory, turquoise and ebony in these cues appears to be real and on the second one with red points if the ferrules appear to be ivory.

The issue is that I have no idea who made these cues. I don't know if they are custom or not. The descriptions say that the one with ivory/turquoise is completely custom with a fresh redo on the clear coat and the second with the red inlay is possibly a production cue that was a redo and the spear points were added in. Does anyone have any idea who may have made either of these cues or if they resemble a particular cue maker? I know this is asking alot from these pictures and that the pics arent that great but its important that I find out.

Thanks alot for any infor anyone may have!

1st Cue

2nd Cue

 

[Xnotedgeanymore]

Difficult to guess at a maker without pictures of the joint and butt cap, preferably with the bumpers removed to expose the weight bolts. Best of luck in identifying them, maybe someone will recognize them from your pictures. If not you will likely have to get a couple more shots of the areas I mentioned to get more information to go on. -Josh

 

[The Kiss]

I want to say Luccasi or some lower end production cue...If that is real ivory and turquise that would be a high end $$$ cue. Plus if you look closely the wood color in the rings doesn't match up exactly. Doubt a good cue builder would do that

 

[el_h3fe]

apparently the first one with the ivory/turqoise was from a pool cue collectors collection that was divided up and sold after he died. I understand that it is very difficult to identify without joint pics and inside/weight bolts with butt cap off. Unfortunately this is all I have to go on so far.8 and i am weary of them as well because the turqoise just looks very odd to me. The way the lines are doesn't look like it is original. As if the lines were intentionally made... Its hard to explain.. Regardless, if someone has any other information on who could have made these or what company may have made these, I would appreciate it.

More importantly, based on the pics if you can judged whether the ivory or turqoise appears to be real that is also extremely important too. I know its not much but any info is appreciated. Also, thanks for the replies guys, the info certainly helps.

**EDIT** I was told that the shafts in the pics for the 2nd cue are from proficiant billiards. Was told that they are white rock canadian maple with pro tapers and that the ferrules are ivory. Also told that the cue is from the 70s or 80s.

Also I am told that the pins are 5-16-14. Other people are telling me it may be Bill Stroud did alot of very similar work to this in 1979- the mid 80s. I don't know if any of this helps but its worth a try.

I guess what I am really asking is if either of these cues in your opinion would be worth taking a chance on for 200.00. Would you take the chance for 200.00 (not for both.. just for one of them)? And why you would or wouldn't take the risk.

 

[dnixon]

my thoughts are the first one not real ivory or turquoise ... but the other one looks to be a very nice custom good luck to you

 

[el_h3fe]

thank you very much. I appreciate the info. That helps because the way that turquoise looks I would have to agree. The second one though, I also think looks pretty good. Thanks again for the input.