hey joe spain ?

[merylane]

do you give any value difference for a cue made with a spain blank?

i dont know why the blue book didnt touch on that, just gus's.

ex. if you had 2 cues from the same maker same design only difference was the blanks?

what if you had 3 one made from gus's, burts, and the own cuemakers?

 

[classiccues]

do you give any value difference for a cue made with a spain blank?

i dont know why the blue book didnt touch on that, just gus's.

ex. if you had 2 cues from the same maker same design only difference was the blanks?

what if you had 3 one made from gus's, burts, and the own cuemakers?

I am assuming by the ambiguous title, this is towards me.
In ref. to Balabushka, yes it matters. With Szamboti points normally bringing in more money. I don't think anyone knows if Bushka made his own blanks ever. I have heard two different takes on it, and I don't have any knowledge to the contrary. I do believe the BB does make that distinction. Gus made a handful of WICO blank points, I don't know Burtons involvement in WICO, they are priced differently also.

Joe

 

[ScottR]

I am assuming by the ambiguous title, this is towards me.
In ref. to Balabushka, yes it matters. With Szamboti points normally bringing in more money. I don't think anyone knows if Bushka made his own blanks ever. I have heard two different takes on it, and I don't have any knowledge to the contrary. I do believe the BB does make that distinction. Gus made a handful of WICO blank points, I don't know Burtons involvement in WICO, they are priced differently also.

Joe

WICO???
Is a cue made by a "known" cue maker using a Burton Spain blank generally worth more than one made with an "unknown" blank? Thanks.

 

[merylane]

I am assuming by the ambiguous title, this is towards me.
In ref. to Balabushka, yes it matters. With Szamboti points normally bringing in more money. I don't think anyone knows if Bushka made his own blanks ever. I have heard two different takes on it, and I don't have any knowledge to the contrary. I do believe the BB does make that distinction. Gus made a handful of WICO blank points, I don't know Burtons involvement in WICO, they are priced differently also.

Joe

yes it was towards you, but of course i would like anyone else's input.

i chose you cause of the obvious value of your opinion.

and i know they (b.b.) made that clear with george and gus, but many have used blanks from wico, spain, and gus but theres no metion of it pertaining to others, or even titlist blanks?

for ex. if you had 2 plain dick's, one with a gus blank i would think the gus would be more valuble?

there are many others and some used both or more.

for horn how would the price vary? titlist? wico? not sure? burts? gus's?

 

[merylane]

I am assuming by the ambiguous title, this is towards me.
In ref. to Balabushka, yes it matters. With Szamboti points normally bringing in more money. I don't think anyone knows if Bushka made his own blanks ever. I have heard two different takes on it, and I don't have any knowledge to the contrary. I do believe the BB does make that distinction. Gus made a handful of WICO blank points, I don't know Burtons involvement in WICO, they are priced differently also.

Joe

i would also love to hear the 2 takes on george making blanks.

im in the opinion he did not for a couple of reasons.

1 supposedly bill was the first to look at the equiptment and i dont recall him saying anything about a bandsaw, he did mention a table saw, which you could make blanks on. and im sure george could of made blanks.

2 all i have seen that are supposedly his are of poorer quality, which is not like george, and they clearly show a bandsaw kerf on the edges of the inner piont.

this would be a good thing to talk to pete about, i tend to think it was just a space issue.

 

[classiccues]

yes it was towards you, but of course i would like anyone else's input.

i chose you cause of the obvious value of your opinion.

and i know they (b.b.) made that clear with george and gus, but many have used blanks from wico, spain, and gus but theres no metion of it pertaining to others, or even titlist blanks?

for ex. if you had 2 plain dick's, one with a gus blank i would think the gus would be more valuble?

there are many others and some used both or more.

for horn how would the price vary? titlist? wico? not sure? burts? gus's?

Well I don't know.. I would think, and judging by other collectibles, its going to vary. Horn is an odd cue, some collectors (many) show disdain towards Horn because he alledgedly made copies, knowing they might be confusing. Now personally if I was to own a Horn, I would like a Spain blank Bushka copy as opposed to those 6 and 8 point ivory cues he made in the latter part of his career. But thats me. But some collectors might like the ivory cues, and place a higher value on them vs the Spain blanks. I do not know if he ever used Gus' blanks in quantity. But lets say he made ONE with a Gus blank. IMHO that would be the Horn to own.

Spain supposedly sold blanks to Palmer / Paradise. Paradise didn't make his own points, so I believe that they are all Spains, with the exception of the titlists. Palmers you would get a little rise, lets say 15-20%, for a Wico cue, maybe 25% on a model J. But I don't know Spains involvement in WICO, and after reading that blurb on another thread about Gus never using Spain, I don't want to comment, since he used WICO.

I think the market, and collectors will determine the final value. If there were 3 Bushka's, a titlist, a Spain, a Szamboti all things being equal, the normal market would favor the Gus in value. But there maybe a Spain collector that would not give you a wooden nickle for the Gus but would pay a premium for the Spain.
Joe