Hips and Pool Stroke?

[Zphix]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

 

[alphadog]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

Mark Wilson stresses proper foot alignment.

 

[logical]

Edit:
Reconsidered, thought we were talking hip action which obliouly should be almost none.

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[billy bones]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

The only time your hips should have effect on your stroke is a impact break ie: 9 ball, 8 ball. Beyond that having a proper overall stance, foot position etc. has a real effect as it is part of your basic fundamentals. If you are a beginner I suggest you review the information on proper stance from Jimmy Reid and/or C.J.Wiley in their respective videos. It is good information. Good luck.


Namaste,

Billy Bones

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

One common hip problem is when it gets in the way of a straight stroke, causing the grip hand to (probably unconsciously) swerve around it, creating a swooping stroke. I think this is usually cured by "closing" the stance a little (facing more toward the stick to shift the hip away from it).

pj
chgo

 

[Andrew Manning]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

You already noticed your foot position will influence your hip position. Hip position (how open/closed they are and how close to the cue they are) will affect the angle of your torso relative to the shot. This will affect the angle of your shoulders relative to the shot. This will affect the angle of the upper arm (the line from shoulder to elbow) relative to the shot line. This will effect the swing path of the lower arm, with some positions promoting a straight back and forth motion and other positions making the cue want to veer off line.

In short, it definitely has an effect, and human bodies are way too variable for any one stance to work best for everyone. I'd work your way down from the shooting shoulder. Figure out what angle you need to hold your shoulders at to stroke straight. Then move your hips somewhere that allows you to achieve that shoulder angle without contorting your torso much. Then position your feet to allow that hip position to feel stable. Note that foot position, and see if using it consistently helps your stroke.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

You already noticed your foot position will influence your hip position. Hip position (how open/closed they are and how close to the cue they are) will affect the angle of your torso relative to the shot. This will affect the angle of your shoulders relative to the shot. This will affect the angle of the upper arm (the line from shoulder to elbow) relative to the shot line. This will effect the swing path of the lower arm, with some positions promoting a straight back and forth motion and other positions making the cue want to veer off line.

In short, it definitely has an effect, and human bodies are way too variable for any one stance to work best for everyone.

All too true. I envy those who just fall into the right stance naturally instead of needing to search (like me) to find the position for each part that moves the cue naturally along my line of sight.

pj <- coming along...
chgo

 

[FeelDaShot]

Hey guys,

Does anybody know how the hips affect your pool stroke? I play a lot of disc golf so I know your lower body plays a big role in finite upper body movement and I discovered (by accident) that my stroke gets a little bit sloppy in one foot position and is laser straight with another.

The difference in feet position isn't much (maybe 30 degree turn) but it's enough to feel extremely noticeable in my right hip. It closes it to the shot line. So yeah, anybody have any insight on this, Dr. Dave possibly?

The hips play a HUGE role in the stroke. If you turn your back foot so it's perpendicular to the shot line it majorly opens up your hips and naturally positions the cue further from your body/ribs. I made some big changes in my stance over the past few months and it's unbelievable how much it's benefited my stroke.

Also, disc golf is awesome! Once the weather breaks I'll be out there twistin some discs.

 

[Zphix]

The transition I made was from having my right foot perpendicular to the shot line and planting it more parallel to the shot line BEFORE stepping into the shot and, like I said, we're only talking a 30 degree change.

But, it's actually pretty magical because I have so much confidence when I'm down on the shot line and I didn't even have a lack of confidence before. I'm a fairly strong player (sometimes I get lucky ) but this tiny tweak may have pushed me over this plateau I was stuck at.