EITHER THAT OR THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THERE HANDS OFF THEM SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN HOLDING THEM SO LONG. JUST WOUNDERING IF THIS LITTLE CHAT BOX IS A LOCAL THING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. EBAY IS WORLD WIDE AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH IT I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF THE CUES BUILT UP HERE DO ABSOLOUTLEY SHIT ON AUCTION SITESiconcuecom said:yea - pretty obvious brokers are promoting cues they can get their hands on.
jeff
cuedoctor said:EITHER THAT OR THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THERE HANDS OFF THEM SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN HOLDING THEM SO LONG. JUST WOUNDERING IF THIS LITTLE CHAT BOX IS A LOCAL THING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. EBAY IS WORLD WIDE AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH IT I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF THE CUES BUILT UP HERE DO ABSOLOUTLEY SHIT ON AUCTION SITES
cuedoctor said:
WELL ATLEAST I WOKE JOE UP,THANKS,U PROBALY KNOW WHO I AM. I HAVE LOOKED AT THAT FANELLI FOR SOME TIME AND IT LOOKS NICE AND I WOULDNT MIND AQUIRING IT BUT JUST JUDGING HOW LONG ITS BEEN THERE MAKES ME WONDER. HIS STYLE WITH THE BROWN PHENOLIC COLLARS AND RING WORK IS SOMETHING I LIKE ALOT BUT WHAT ARE HIS FERRULES MATERIAL JOE.I THINK IT MAY BE EASIER TO CHAT WITH U ABOUT THIS CUE ON AZ THAN TRYING TO EMAIL YOU! EBAY CAN BE GREAT OR IT CAN BE DEATH FOR A CUE. ME,I LIST CUES AND IF THEY DONT GET A FAIR VALUE BID I WONT SELL IT BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL LET THEM GO FOR PERSONAL REASONS BUT ME,I WONT DUMP A CUE BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY HURT THERE VALUE IN THE LONG RUN. PEOPLE EMAIL ME ALL THE TIME AND WHEN I TELL THEM THE BOTTOM LINE THEY DONT AGREE BUT THERE ARE ONLY 2 TIMES IN LIKE A 100 CUES THAT I DIDNT GET WHAT I WANTED IN A CUE,I HAD A GINA UP A MONTH AGO AND HAD MANY INQUIRES BUT THE PRICE WAS NOT WHAT BARGAIN HUNTERS WANTED AND I DIDNT FOLD,4 DAYS INTO THE AUCTION A GUY PAYS ME EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IT WAS WORTH AND HAD THE MONEY IN MY HANDS IN 24 HOURS SO EBAY CAN BE GOOD. MY POINT IS THAT YES EBAY DOES NOT ALWAYS SET THE MARKET VALUE ON A CUE BUT WHEN YOU SEE CERTAIN CUEMAKERS CUES ALWAYS DO NOTHING THAN THAT SAYS SOMETHING . I AM NOT KNOCKING ANY OF THE FORE MENTIONED CUEMAKERS BUT AM DOING SOME HOME WORK BEFORE I BUY ONE OF THE CUES MENTIONED.I USUALLY BUY ONLY CUES THAT ARE ALWAYS MARKETABLE SO DIVING INTO THESE NEW CUEMAKERS IS SOMETIMES RISKY. I BUY CUES TO PLAY BUT ALWAYS LOOK AT THEM FROM A MARKET SENSE BECAUSE I MUST HAVE A SHORT ATTENTION SPAN BECAUSE I ALWAYS SEE SOMETHING ELSE I LIKE AND CANT RESIST! I HAVENT HAD TOO MANY CUES THAT DIDNT HIT GREAT AND SKIPS IVORY JOINTED ONE WAS JAM UP AND THE USUAL MOTTEYS THAT ALWAYS PLAY NUMBER 1 . SO THAT IS THE REASON I POSTED THIS,NOT TO KNOCK THESE CUEMAKER. I HAVE SEEN SOME AWESOME GILBERT AT THE SHOWS!classiccues said:
cuedoctor said:WELL ATLEAST I WOKE JOE UP,THANKS,U PROBALY KNOW WHO I AM. I HAVE LOOKED AT THAT FANELLI FOR SOME TIME AND IT LOOKS NICE AND I WOULDNT MIND AQUIRING IT BUT JUST JUDGING HOW LONG ITS BEEN THERE MAKES ME WONDER. HIS STYLE WITH THE BROWN PHENOLIC COLLARS AND RING WORK IS SOMETHING I LIKE ALOT BUT WHAT ARE HIS FERRULES MATERIAL JOE.I THINK IT MAY BE EASIER TO CHAT WITH U ABOUT THIS CUE ON AZ THAN TRYING TO EMAIL YOU! EBAY CAN BE GREAT OR IT CAN BE DEATH FOR A CUE. ME,I LIST CUES AND IF THEY DONT GET A FAIR VALUE BID I WONT SELL IT BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL LET THEM GO FOR PERSONAL REASONS BUT ME,I WONT DUMP A CUE BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY HURT THERE VALUE IN THE LONG RUN. PEOPLE EMAIL ME ALL THE TIME AND WHEN I TELL THEM THE BOTTOM LINE THEY DONT AGREE BUT THERE ARE ONLY 2 TIMES IN LIKE A 100 CUES THAT I DIDNT GET WHAT I WANTED IN A CUE,I HAD A GINA UP A MONTH AGO AND HAD MANY INQUIRES BUT THE PRICE WAS NOT WHAT BARGAIN HUNTERS WANTED AND I DIDNT FOLD,4 DAYS INTO THE AUCTION A GUY PAYS ME EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IT WAS WORTH AND HAD THE MONEY IN MY HANDS IN 24 HOURS SO EBAY CAN BE GOOD. MY POINT IS THAT YES EBAY DOES NOT ALWAYS SET THE MARKET VALUE ON A CUE BUT WHEN YOU SEE CERTAIN CUEMAKERS CUES ALWAYS DO NOTHING THAN THAT SAYS SOMETHING . I AM NOT KNOCKING ANY OF THE FORE MENTIONED CUEMAKERS BUT AM DOING SOME HOME WORK BEFORE I BUY ONE OF THE CUES MENTIONED.I USUALLY BUY ONLY CUES THAT ARE ALWAYS MARKETABLE SO DIVING INTO THESE NEW CUEMAKERS IS SOMETIMES RISKY. I BUY CUES TO PLAY BUT ALWAYS LOOK AT THEM FROM A MARKET SENSE BECAUSE I MUST HAVE A SHORT ATTENTION SPAN BECAUSE I ALWAYS SEE SOMETHING ELSE I LIKE AND CANT RESIST! I HAVENT HAD TOO MANY CUES THAT DIDNT HIT GREAT AND SKIPS IVORY JOINTED ONE WAS JAM UP AND THE USUAL MOTTEYS THAT ALWAYS PLAY NUMBER 1 . SO THAT IS THE REASON I POSTED THIS,NOT TO KNOCK THESE CUEMAKER. I HAVE SEEN SOME AWESOME GILBERT AT THE SHOWS!
THEY HAVE VERY DEEP POCKETS AND BOUGHT ALOT OF CUES FOR VERY HIGH PRICES.BUT IN REALITY,IF YOU HAD BOTTOM LESS POCKETS WOULD YOU GIVE A CRAP EITHER IF YOU PAID SAY 30 PERCENT MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE WOULD.IF YOU WERE RICH IT WOULDNT MATTER AS LONG AS YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED SO THATS WHAT A FREE MARKET IS ALL ABOUT. THERE IS PROBALY SOME JEALOUSNESS ABOUT WHAT WENT ON(INCLUDING ME) ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THESE BIDDERS BUT THATS LIFE AND I WOULDNT CARE MUCH EITHER IF I WAS IN THERE POSTION.I ALSO THINK NOW THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET SO THAT DOESNT HAPPEN LIKE IT DID.lukeinva said:
CAPS OFF!cueaddicts said:
I dont see many(or shall I say ever) gina's,motteys,szambotti's,herceks,even blacks with other than ivory ferrules.Its not just a matter of andys preference ,its what BELONGS ON THE CUE THAT LOADED WITH IVORY.Granted,each cuemaker may build a cue to hit how he feels it should but not many cuemakers are accomplished players say like mottey,so it should have ferrules that are what are normally on high end cues.IMOcueaddicts said:
cuedoctor said:
Point taken,and on that players cue you just got off az billiards i wouldnt expect ivory ferrules be a important factor in paying 600? for a cue,but when i go to the derby,valley forge,9ball open and see a loaded gilbert for 3000 plus dollars and ask what kind of ferrules and hear not ivory,well that 3000 cue is a investment also not a cue thats going in my bag to the local action but a cue thats taken out in my pool room down stairs and taken care of.SkippyFL said:
cuedoctor said:
Its like buying a mecedes with no ac. Now if i was buying a 72 vw beetle i would expect no ac. Like I said,most of the top cuemakers put ivory on there high end cues,they dont expect the buyer to have to mess with there shafts to have ivory added to a cue thats got alot of ivory in it already. This is just a observation. And I aint alone on this,i am at all the shows and people say the same thing to me.. Were not talking about these 4 point players cues,were talking like the 3500 gilbert i saw at the derby,I am not going to go over to blackburn and have him redo the tips and ferrules after spending 3500 on a cue,Never have had to before and I aint starting for gilbert or any of them.I guess the truly great cue makers all ready realized that,thats why there great.BiG_JoN said:Why not just buy the damn cue and have the ferrules replaced with ivory?
Geez...
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