How do you get over being a coward?
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drivermaker
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Everybody has a $$$ gag point, either because they're not used to playing for it, or the personal loss will hurt them too much in the pocket book.
If it's going to hurt too much in the pocket book, that may or may not be a big deal as long as you have the game and confidence to know that you'll win it back against other players on another night and make that a part of your long term mindset. You'll get it back, it's no big deal. Losing is as much a part as winning and it WILL happen.You just can't, don't, and won't win them all so that has to be accepted.
If you CAN break through your current gag barrier, you'll actually win a hell of a lot more down the road on any size bet by (a) taking someone else past THEIR gag point and out of their comfort zone for the higher stakes and they'll have trouble playing their normal game, or (b)even if you can't bump them up to the higher amount, you'll still have a psychological edge because they'll know that you had no fear in playing them for a much higher amount.
At a certain point, it's more mind and fear warfare than skill level. Even a man with greater skill than you can play like shit if you mess with his mind and take him out of his normal element and instill some doubt or fear.
If it's going to hurt too much in the pocket book, that may or may not be a big deal as long as you have the game and confidence to know that you'll win it back against other players on another night and make that a part of your long term mindset. You'll get it back, it's no big deal. Losing is as much a part as winning and it WILL happen.You just can't, don't, and won't win them all so that has to be accepted.
If you CAN break through your current gag barrier, you'll actually win a hell of a lot more down the road on any size bet by (a) taking someone else past THEIR gag point and out of their comfort zone for the higher stakes and they'll have trouble playing their normal game, or (b)even if you can't bump them up to the higher amount, you'll still have a psychological edge because they'll know that you had no fear in playing them for a much higher amount.
At a certain point, it's more mind and fear warfare than skill level. Even a man with greater skill than you can play like shit if you mess with his mind and take him out of his normal element and instill some doubt or fear.
wayne said:
You don't have to like every game..Some should make you more nervous than others...But if you've got a fish hook him every time...You have to decide whether you want to be a World Beater or just make money....That entails corerectly handicapping better match ups and winning all the games you should...If the game is right jump in don't think....If not wait for another player to come by...
drivermaker said:
Truer words have never been written^^^....I love the psychology of the game, highrolling players, giving out weight that is meaningless...IE understanding which weight sounds good on paper not in reality... playing better as a result of giving the weight, watching the guy fold as you make up the weight.....Good stuff
Not a Coward!
Most High Rollers had a Roll to start off with ! My Dad was into big time gambling and always told me the one (in cards anyway ) that had the biggest roll or backer was the favorite since the thought of losing it was not as urgent it did not affect their play as much and I truly believe the same pyschology applies to pool ! both games require skills but I have seen many better players fall apart when the stakes were higher than they cared to lose!wayne said:
Purdman
Banned
Same Problem
Wayne, my wife and I work our ass off to make a decent living. I play pool to relax and chill out after work. I love the game. I am not a gambler by any means. I work to hard for my money and don't want to add a bunch of pressure to my relaxation time. The local tournament usually take about 10 hours to complete. I don't want to take that much time to win $150. I get the most enjoyment out of playing 1 pocket for hours on end with competant players on Saturdays. I have a home to take care of too. You are not a coward, you are one of the smart ones. We have a guy on here who claims to have " gambled " more than anyone on the planet. I really like the guy, but ya know what? He ain't got a pot to piss in. No children, no home, no car, no retirement, no insurance, no nothing. If that is what it takes to be a big gambler, forget it. I don't want anything to do with it. You can say I got no heart, no gamble, or what ever you want. If someone has a need, I will be the first one to hand over $1,000 to help out. That's what real heart is about anyway.
Purdman
Wayne, my wife and I work our ass off to make a decent living. I play pool to relax and chill out after work. I love the game. I am not a gambler by any means. I work to hard for my money and don't want to add a bunch of pressure to my relaxation time. The local tournament usually take about 10 hours to complete. I don't want to take that much time to win $150. I get the most enjoyment out of playing 1 pocket for hours on end with competant players on Saturdays. I have a home to take care of too. You are not a coward, you are one of the smart ones. We have a guy on here who claims to have " gambled " more than anyone on the planet. I really like the guy, but ya know what? He ain't got a pot to piss in. No children, no home, no car, no retirement, no insurance, no nothing. If that is what it takes to be a big gambler, forget it. I don't want anything to do with it. You can say I got no heart, no gamble, or what ever you want. If someone has a need, I will be the first one to hand over $1,000 to help out. That's what real heart is about anyway.
Purdman
Absolutely!
An Honest and Wise thought! I hope some of the local "High" rollers and wannabees hear you! I grew up around hustlers, the real kind and most of them died with nothing or very little to call a legacy besides the pool stories! I decided a long time ago that wasn't how I wanted to be or to aspire to be!Donald A. Purdy said:
Hustlers, Gamblers and wannabees!
I read a lot of post from folks on these sites that think they are Gamblers and Pool hustlers / Sharks or whatever term they choose to be known by ! I have to say this to them ... Most of these folks I run into are not hustlers or gamblers! they are con men and cowards looking for the easy game ! "prey"
they steer clear of the shooters they know are good or better ! they look for suckers and fools to play! that my friends is not the role of a true player ! I have known some great players in my 45 years around pool, and the ones I knew played any and all comers !! without any thought to it the suckers that came they threw back in the water and told them to grow up that is the mark of a great shooter not someone who lurks around looking for victims IMO! they are the true cowards in and of the game! 
I read a lot of post from folks on these sites that think they are Gamblers and Pool hustlers / Sharks or whatever term they choose to be known by ! I have to say this to them ... Most of these folks I run into are not hustlers or gamblers! they are con men and cowards looking for the easy game ! "prey"
they steer clear of the shooters they know are good or better ! they look for suckers and fools to play! that my friends is not the role of a true player ! I have known some great players in my 45 years around pool, and the ones I knew played any and all comers !! without any thought to it the suckers that came they threw back in the water and told them to grow up that is the mark of a great shooter not someone who lurks around looking for victims IMO! they are the true cowards in and of the game! 
Bravo! Mr. Lucky & Purdman
I couldn't agree more!...I have run into these types as I move around the local rooms...they are the worst kind...bottom feeders who give to pool hall the 'popular', though inaccurate image that is has...ie 'hells angels' and motorcyclists...I play for fun and relaxation, I joined a league for competition and the energy of a team...gambling is just a waste of money, whether mine or theirs...I just a working family man with a love of Pool...got no time for the worst of it...
I couldn't agree more!...I have run into these types as I move around the local rooms...they are the worst kind...bottom feeders who give to pool hall the 'popular', though inaccurate image that is has...ie 'hells angels' and motorcyclists...I play for fun and relaxation, I joined a league for competition and the energy of a team...gambling is just a waste of money, whether mine or theirs...I just a working family man with a love of Pool...got no time for the worst of it...
Wayne, I'm no high stakes gambler, but from what I hear I
do have some heart. How do you get over your fear of
upping the ante? Simple...start doing it. With that said,
how you bet is your own business. You don't have any
obligation to clean guys out...and you shouldn't feel like
your heart is in question when you don't...just because
other people your speed are doing it. It depends what you
play for like someone else mentioned. I'm trying to improve
so I win what I can and put myself into horrible action and
donate it back a lot of the time.
peace
do have some heart. How do you get over your fear of
upping the ante? Simple...start doing it. With that said,
how you bet is your own business. You don't have any
obligation to clean guys out...and you shouldn't feel like
your heart is in question when you don't...just because
other people your speed are doing it. It depends what you
play for like someone else mentioned. I'm trying to improve
so I win what I can and put myself into horrible action and
donate it back a lot of the time.
peace
Getting someone to stake half your action might work for you as long as you don't have the problem I had years ago (when I gambled a little) - I felt MORE pressure if someone backed me!! Because then if I lost I was not only losing (which I detest) and losing money, but letting someone else down as well. For me, the pressure when getting staked was way worse than losing my own money..... Gee, how nutty can you get!!??
Just my .02
Tap tap tap...you tell em Purdman.
I realized myself back in 95 that I had a choice, to quit college and try to become a professional pool player, or to finish up, get a degree and use my brain to make my money. Needless to say, the college degree has gotten me much further and more stable of a career than any pool cue could of taken me. Realisticly, nobody wants to sponsor a guy in a wheelchair in a tournament or back him in a high dollar game of pool. Just too many unknowns and too many disadvantages for him to overcome already. When I do gamble, I gamble cheap, 20 bucks a game at most on 1pocket and 5 bucks a game at most for 9 or 8 ball. I make good money and could afford to gamble for more...but will I? Nope...not worth the hastle. I am not in this to make a living, I am like Purdman there, I wanna relax and bang balls as well as show off my occasional skills for a short guy. I can turn on and off my serious game as whatever the occasion needs...and believe me I do. Money does not necessarily make me shift gears, my opponent does.
Shorty
Donald A. Purdy said:
Tap tap tap...you tell em Purdman.
I realized myself back in 95 that I had a choice, to quit college and try to become a professional pool player, or to finish up, get a degree and use my brain to make my money. Needless to say, the college degree has gotten me much further and more stable of a career than any pool cue could of taken me. Realisticly, nobody wants to sponsor a guy in a wheelchair in a tournament or back him in a high dollar game of pool. Just too many unknowns and too many disadvantages for him to overcome already. When I do gamble, I gamble cheap, 20 bucks a game at most on 1pocket and 5 bucks a game at most for 9 or 8 ball. I make good money and could afford to gamble for more...but will I? Nope...not worth the hastle. I am not in this to make a living, I am like Purdman there, I wanna relax and bang balls as well as show off my occasional skills for a short guy. I can turn on and off my serious game as whatever the occasion needs...and believe me I do. Money does not necessarily make me shift gears, my opponent does.
Shorty
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Timberly
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When I used to gamble I was the same way.... I wonder if it's a "girl thing". We're more compassionate than men. Even though we're competitive and have the drive & desire to annihilate someone, we're still compassionate....Kerry Impson said:Getting someone to stake half your action might work for you as long as you don't have the problem I had years ago (when I gambled a little) - I felt MORE pressure if someone backed me!! Because then if I lost I was not only losing (which I detest) and losing money, but letting someone else down as well. For me, the pressure when getting staked was way worse than losing my own money..... Gee, how nutty can you get!!??
drivermaker
Banned
Kerry Impson said:Getting someone to stake half your action might work for you as long as you don't have the problem I had years ago (when I gambled a little) - I felt MORE pressure if someone backed me!! Because then if I lost I was not only losing (which I detest) and losing money, but letting someone else down as well. For me, the pressure when getting staked was way worse than losing my own money..... Gee, how nutty can you get!!??
There's someone on here impersonating Kerry Impson....
Whoa...the many faces of Eve...I don't know what end is up any more.
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but I suppose somehow you have either seen some relevance imaginary or otherwise or perhaps you got pissed about my statements and lost your reason? anyhow perhaps Sir you should carefully revaluate what you think I said and replace it with what I did say! Or perhaps I struck a couple of sore sports ......LOL! spots? 'eh?
in which case you should just get some professional help perhaps!
NA / AA???? I don't know what the hell you are talking about ! I have done it all drinking some drugs in the day! just why any of that is thats pertinent to my post regarding the difference between wannabee hustlers and Real Gamblers escapes me!whitewolf said:
but I suppose somehow you have either seen some relevance imaginary or otherwise or perhaps you got pissed about my statements and lost your reason? anyhow perhaps Sir you should carefully revaluate what you think I said and replace it with what I did say! Or perhaps I struck a couple of sore sports ......LOL! spots? 'eh?in which case you should just get some professional help perhaps!
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Bull ShitTimberly said:
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Timberly
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Not all men and not all the time, but generally speaking.... Women are softies when it comes to emotions and whatnot.... until we get pissed that is....Mike Templeton said:Bull Shit
You know I was just joking. You seem harmless enough to me. But then, you know how naive I amTimberly said:Not all men and not all the time, but generally speaking.... Women are softies when it comes to emotions and whatnot.... until we get pissed that is....
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Timberly
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That's because you saw me most when I was a teenager..... I'm just a jaded 'ole B!&#H these days!Mike Templeton said:
Purdman
Banned
MrLucky said:NA / AA???? I don't know what the hell you are talking about ! I have done it all drinking some drugs in the day! just why any of that is thats pertinent to my post regarding the difference between wannabee hustlers and Real Gamblers escapes me!
MrLucky, I think WW is speaking from his own personal experiences. Check out some of his posts. Most are written in the same spirit. I would just suggest that you tell him to " KEEP COMMING BACK . Mabe he will understand.
Purdman
