How do you handle this? (long)

TATE said:
Wayne,

I think I know who you are talking about. If I felt he were rational, I would suggest a calm discussion face to face, but I think he's a little "anger management class" material.

I think you have to just continue to do what you are doing. You can prove him wrong and foolish every single day. Your reputation, demeanor, and conduct speak for themselves. I have always thought you were an exceptional gentleman (except for your cruel safety play) I don't think anyone you give a damn about is going to believe this guy.

If I were the owner of this pool room, I would be very concerned that my manager was getting petty with my good customers. This is a line I would not want my employees to cross.

Chris
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Thanks for the kind words Chris. Your right on his need for "anger management" if he wasn't the manager there he would not be playing in the tournaments after all of his unsportsmanlike conduct.

Wayne
 
If you drill him enough times eventually you are going to snap his ego in half and he's going to be more polite because his spirit will be broken. All of those reinforcing thoughts of how he thinks he can beat you that travel through his mind and out of his ass when he goes and talks to other people about you will eventually fade away, and he will finally accept the fact that you play better. I say play him more and drill him into submission.
 
Thank you all for a lot of good advise some of which I am already doing and some which I can use. I will do a seperate post on the situation that came up as a rules question so you can make the call.

Wayne
 
Hi Wayne -

I am only posting because I am all the way across the country, haven't been home in months, and seeing your post made me homesick!

I know exactly who you are referring to. Oscar and Chris are right...forget about it! Talk to the owner if you need to...but it probably won't help. All of us from the So Cal area know you are a stand-up guy. I've known you for years and I don't think I've ever heard anyone accuse you of anything!

I'm coming back to LA on Monday for 1 week...then off to another WPBA event. Will you be at HOB on Tuesday night for tournament? If so, I might come by to say hello!

Melissa
 
Hey Wayne-

Funny; I'm in the same camp as Melissa in that I knew exactly who you were talking about even though no names were mentioned. We all know the manager in question, and no one takes him seriously enough when he gets in one of his fits. Besides, the owner likes and respects you (as does everyone else) so no worries. In the end, if it came down to his word against yours I don't think you'd have much to worry about.

Cheers

SW
 
Maybe the guy really believes you cheated. Sometimes people can be very mistaken but are convinced they know the bottom line. Maybe someone (a friend of his perhaps) could have told him that they saw you cheat just to get a rile out of their "friend". He being the guy that he is believed his "friend" and is now convinced that you cheated.

By the way, did you ever find out what he thinks you did to cheat?
JoeyA



wayne said:
About 5 months ago I was playing this guy in a tournament and a controversy arose, the tournament director determined the game should be replayed. The opponent won the game but lost the set and went storming off. I later found out he had told many players I was a cheat. Now 5 months later I find out he is still going around badmouthing me and calling me a cheat.

The problem is he is the main manager at an upscale poolhall that I now only frequent occasionally. I know he would love to ban me but the owner is a friend and wouldn't allow it.

I have met up with him twice in tournaments recently and beat him badly both times after the second defeat he went storming off again and told a bunch of people he would never shake my hand because I was a cheat.

The main problem as I see it is he is extremely competitive and hates losing and the fact that I have beat up on him many times has led to him hating me. He is not the type of person you could just talk to and work things out, he refuses to talk to me. The only time I play him now is in a tournament and I am not willing to dump which probably wouldn't be a workable solution at this point anyway.

Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

Wayne
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DM, Wayne already beats the guy every time they compete. If Wayne does as you suggest he may as well ask the guy to step outside to settle the score because that is what is going to happen. The accuser already is so pissed that he can't make a ball and would like to take this further.

If I were Wayne, I would ask the guy how I cheated him and just let him talk.

It could be that one of his pals lied to him just to see him get steamed. That's happened before. It's called entertainment for some.
JoeyA



drivermaker said:
Well, it doesn't sound like the two of you are going to be playing each other for money or funsy, so the only time you might be paired together again is in another tournament.

Right before you're ready to break, turn around and make an announcement to everyone within earshot with this mocking statement, "I am here to win this match against (so and so) and I'll do it at all cost...even if it requires cheating. So please watch me carefully...the hand is always quicker than the eye". He should be so pissed and embarrassed that he won't be able to even make a hanger.

Then proceed to pound him into the ground. (just don't cheat) ;) :D
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Ignore him completely. When you must compete with him, ask the TD for a referee. If he is spouting off that someone is a cheat, everyone already knows he's a hot head and probably don't believe a word he says anyway. Most importantly, keep beating him.

Deno Andrews
 
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