How FargoRate Improves the 10-Point System in Leagues

[CSI Media]

September 14, 2018 - The 10-point scoring system is one of the most common 8-ball scoring methods used in pool leagues. Each person earns one point for each of their balls pocketed (i.e. solids or stripes) and three points for the 8-ball. The winner of each game earns 10 points and the opponent earns a maximum of seven points. However, this system has some major flaws that can now be corrected. Click here to read more...

 

[sixpack]

September 14, 2018 - The 10-point scoring system is one of the most common 8-ball scoring methods used in pool leagues. Each person earns one point for each of their balls pocketed (i.e. solids or stripes) and three points for the 8-ball. The winner of each game earns 10 points and the opponent earns a maximum of seven points. However, this system has some major flaws that can now be corrected. Click here to read more...

Thanks for sharing this.

When the league scores are reported in this format, do you take ball count into consideration for Fargo rating or is it just game W/L?

 

[mikepage]

Thanks for sharing this.

When the league scores are reported in this format, do you take ball count into consideration for Fargo rating or is it just game W/L?

We consider game win/loss, which brings up an issue. We assume the player's primary objective is to win the game. With this scoring there is an occasional game where a player needs 4 balls to win the round and so shoots in the key ball to break out the 8-ball early to cinch the round as a top priority instead of maximizing the chance of winning the game.

We gathered and analyzed several years of league data before deciding what would or wouldn't be acceptable for FargoRate. This 10-point league data is fine --not distinguishable to us from tournament data where no incentive problem exists.

Games from approaches that have a bigger incentive problem than what you see here are unacceptable to us. For example, getting 8 points for a win in 8-ball and point-per-ball for a loss is unacceptable to us. We do not offer that in LMS.

 

[strmanglr scott]

My league just switched over to this ten point system.

The league operator didn't do a very good job of explaining it and there was mass confusion first night.

I'm about to tell my team to find a replacement for me.

I followed the link above and it shed some light on it. Is there a more comprehensive overview of the way it works?

 

[tucson9ball]

September 14, 2018 - The 10-point scoring system is one of the most common 8-ball scoring methods used in pool leagues. Each person earns one point for each of their balls pocketed (i.e. solids or stripes) and three points for the 8-ball. The winner of each game earns 10 points and the opponent earns a maximum of seven points. However, this system has some major flaws that can now be corrected. Click here to read more...

League Operators will have to be on their toes when printing score sheets every week.
Currently, we can't get many LO's to enter games into Fargo. What percentage of LO's do you think will switch over to this system?
I agree it is much more accurate but many players and LO's just want to show up and drink a few beers....

 

[sixpack]

We consider game win/loss, which brings up an issue. We assume the player's primary objective is to win the game. With this scoring there is an occasional game where a player needs 4 balls to win the round and so shoots in the key ball to break out the 8-ball early to cinch the round as a top priority instead of maximizing the chance of winning the game.

We gathered and analyzed several years of league data before deciding what would or wouldn't be acceptable for FargoRate. This 10-point league data is fine --not distinguishable to us from tournament data where no incentive problem exists.

Games from approaches that have a bigger incentive problem than what you see here are unacceptable to us. For example, getting 8 points for a win in 8-ball and point-per-ball for a loss is unacceptable to us. We do not offer that in LMS.

Ok. That's what I was getting at. If you have a 10 pt system where the winner gets points for balls left then it's 17 point total for the winner. i.e. a break and run could be 17-0. Does that skew the fargo ratings higher or lower?

 

[BRussell]

Ok. That's what I was getting at. If you have a 10 pt system where the winner gets points for balls left then it's 17 point total for the winner. i.e. a break and run could be 17-0. Does that skew the fargo ratings higher or lower?

I've never seen that, I like that scoring system. It's much harder to run out with all of your opponent's balls on the table than if they're all cleared off, so you should get more points.

 

[sixpack]

I've never seen that, I like that scoring system. It's much harder to run out with all of your opponent's balls on the table than if they're all cleared off, so you should get more points.

It also leads to a lot more failed runouts because you REALLY want to stick people with a 17-0 if you can so you try to get out even when it isn't advisable.

 

[btown]

This is to confusing for me. I say nay

 

[chefjeff]

This is wonderful news.

Having a way for the avg league player to really compare himself to better players--pro players--is a necessary first step to having a good fan base for a professional league. No more pretending to be better than he is. Now he'll know for sure and maybe even begin to appreciate more the quality play he lacks.



Jeff Livingston