How I Rate A Cue

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i don't care about who made the cue,weather it was paradise, balabushka, or chudy. i don't care about the taper, fat medium or thin, i don't care about the joint, plastic or steel. i don't care about the inlays, ivory,cocobolla, or whatever. i don't care about the amount of inlays, i don't care if it was hand made or machine made. i don't care if it cost $150 or $10,000. i don't care if it took 4 months to make or 4 hours. so----- what do i care about????? i only care about one thing and 1 thing ONLY!!!!!------ THE BALANCE. that's it, the end, period discussion over! if the balance doesn't speak to me from the moment i pick up the cue, it's firewood, trash, and cancer. the weight, and the balance are 2 different things. the weight is how much the cue weighs, which means nothing. the balance is how it FEELS in the players hands. how a cue feels in the players hands is the most important aspect to me. it's funny, not in a ha ha way, but in a pathetic one, in all the cue adds, they say things like "a solid hit" real inlays, "uni-loc joints" french tip, etc.etc. yet they never ever speak of "the perfect magical balance" well, that's how i "The Silencer" 8-ball champion of new york, rates a cue. question---------- "does your cue "FEEL" great in your hands, or just ok"? next time your in the market for a new cue, that should be your only concern. good night from new york.
 
I hate to disagree with you on this one but..
Ah, a decent cueamaker can hit the balance point ( 18.5 to 19 from the bottom) easily.
Now, a maker can make a cue with crappy forearm wood, crappy handle and crappy shaft. It'll probably weigh like 17 oz without weight. He puts in bolts everywhere to alter the balance.
Great, now you have a cue with a nice balance.
It'll still hit like crap.
Why do you think cuemakers like Bludworth, Ted Harris, Harvey Martin ( now deceased) , Edwin Bandido Reyes and Zylr bother to bounce wood to listen for good tonal charactersistics of their wood. If they sound crappy, dead/hollow sound, they get rejected?
The best balance of a cue is a natural forward balance imo.
 
Great reply Joseph, I agree.

I also think a great cue will provide good feedback to the player... not some rattling vibration after a hit. The cue should speak to you when you hit the cue ball right, so you know you just pinged it perfect. That is a great cue.

does your cue "FEEL" great in your hands, or just ok"?

My cue feels like money when I pick it up, every time. I feel like I have the right tool in my hand to do the job, without a doubt. The balance is forward of the grip about 1 1/2 - 2 inches, right on the money. The finish is glossy and clean. The whole forearm and butt isn't too thick. I think all these components add to how much confidence a cue can give you.
 
hellz bellz, bernie....if you hold a broom handle just right, it'll feel great.

everything you mentioned, other than price, makes a difference in how a cue plays. could be you just can't see it:)

to each his own.
 
I think what you just said is total bunk. I love the feel of my Viattorre. It's the best hitting cue I ever had. Jackson told me that they discards most of their wood because they don't meet their quality standards. They also have this new machine they developed to test the tonal feedback of their shafts and assembled butts to make sure the buyer gets the best hitting cue possible. I found that very impressive and is one of the reasons I ordered another of their cues.


THE SILENCER said:
i don't care about who made the cue,weather it was paradise, balabushka, or chudy. i don't care about the taper, fat medium or thin, i don't care about the joint, plastic or steel. i don't care about the inlays, ivory,cocobolla, or whatever. i don't care about the amount of inlays, i don't care if it was hand made or machine made. i don't care if it cost $150 or $10,000. i don't care if it took 4 months to make or 4 hours. so----- what do i care about????? i only care about one thing and 1 thing ONLY!!!!!------ THE BALANCE. that's it, the end, period discussion over! if the balance doesn't speak to me from the moment i pick up the cue, it's firewood, trash, and cancer. the weight, and the balance are 2 different things. the weight is how much the cue weighs, which means nothing. the balance is how it FEELS in the players hands. how a cue feels in the players hands is the most important aspect to me. it's funny, not in a ha ha way, but in a pathetic one, in all the cue adds, they say things like "a solid hit" real inlays, "uni-loc joints" french tip, etc.etc. yet they never ever speak of "the perfect magical balance" well, that's how i "The Silencer" 8-ball champion of new york, rates a cue. question---------- "does your cue "FEEL" great in your hands, or just ok"? next time your in the market for a new cue, that should be your only concern. good night from new york.
 
KingCarom said:
Great reply Joseph, I agree.

I also think a great cue will provide good feedback to the player... not some rattling vibration after a hit. The cue should speak to you when you hit the cue ball right, so you know you just pinged it perfect. That is a great cue.



My cue feels like money when I pick it up, every time. I feel like I have the right tool in my hand to do the job, without a doubt. The balance is forward of the grip about 1 1/2 - 2 inches, right on the money. The finish is glossy and clean. The whole forearm and butt isn't too thick. I think all these components add to how much confidence a cue can give you.
YUP! What good is a cue with a great balance if it doesn't do what you expect it to do?
How would you like to slip a cue through the cueball and it rattled like a frozen noodle?:p
 
O now i feel this is a good one .I was playing with a gilbert cue for years .Slod it and pick up a no name cue for this guy i like the work on it but it had on name. It plays stiff like a brick ..The funnuy Part is i found out who makes the q and how much it cost .All i'll tell u is this .It play like $800.q and is no way near that. I fell sometimes you can find a cheap cue that plays sweet it all in what u like and what u r looking for..Stealth cue b/j played with that .And had a Preadtor q .could not make a ball with the preadtor .Won a local tourment with the stealth cue 75,dollers..If it has the right feel u can play with a broom..It in the feel..
 
you get what you pay for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,cheap isnt going to be quality,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Bill (Szamboti owner )
 
as a "for instance".....

a light cue, say 18-18.5, will always feel balanced because, relatively speaking, it has no weight to force the issue.
 
Bill McDaniel Cues

Szamboti, South West, Black Boar, Mottey, Joss, Schon, Richard Black, Predator, and Scruggs are all super nice cues, but once you have played with a Bill McDaniel there is no going back. Pick one up and see why Karen Corr, Nick Varner, Rodney Morris, and Ismael Paez all own McDaniel cues. They may be sponsored by other cue companies now, but when they had their choice of any cue they could play with they chose McDaniel's. Simply put, in my opinion they are the finest cues made today barr none.
 
Re: Bill McDaniel Cues

Anthony_Beeler said:
Szamboti, South West, Black Boar, Mottey, Joss, Schon, Richard Black, Predator, and Scruggs are all super nice cues, but once you have played with a Bill McDaniel there is no going back. Pick one up and see why Karen Corr, Nick Varner, Rodney Morris, and Ismael Paez all own McDaniel cues. They may be sponsored by other cue companies now, but when they had their choice of any cue they could play with they chose McDaniel's. Simply put, in my opinion they are the finest cues made today barr none.

during his career, a pro will play with MANY cues,,,either because they were given free or as some sort of sponsorship. even as far back as i can remember, varner started witha joss, then he and sigel had their own line, and god knows how many since. rodney also played with a richard black,,,but i'm sure anyone here with a long memory can name a string of cues all those guys have played with.
 
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bruin70 said:
as a "for instance".....

a light cue, say 18-18.5, will always feel balanced because, relatively speaking, it has no weight to force the issue.

I have yet to actually purchase my first custom cue, but perhaps what you are saying does hold some truth. When I am at the poolhall, I scope down the place looking for a 15-17oz cue. The 16oz and 17oz feels the best in my hand, and I play much, much better vs. the heavier weight cues.
 
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