how to find THE head/eye position that gives you the perfect picture

theUBC

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I know that a lot of players miss shots because of a bad stroke/grip/not making contact at the cue ball with their tip where they want to make contact (reason often is cueing across the line).

But I know as well that a lot of players miss shots because they get a wrong picture-means that the spot on object ball they aim at actually would be the correct one and the CB makes contact with the object ball exactly where they aim at...
BUT THE POINT AT THE OBJECT BALL THAT THEY PERCEIVE IS ACTUALLY TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT OF THE REALLY CORRECT SPOT AT THE OBJECT BALL DUE TO A PARALEX ERROR!

How can you be sure to have the perfect picture when you are down over the cue aiming with your cue THROUGH THE CUE BALL at the object ball?

ANSWER: CORRECT EYE POSITION

HOW TO FIND YOUR INDIVIDUAL PERFECT EYE POSITION?

Best tool for dual sighted playes in my opinion is Joe Tucker's MAGIC EYE
Link:https://www.google.de/url?q=http://w...oJ03tY6WcAGfOg

Another tool that helps for dual eyes aimers and dominant eyes aimers is the sightright board

Link: http://www.sightrightuk.com/snookeraid.htm

I have developped a tool that you can put right on you cue
similar and inspired by the magic eye of Joe Tucker that will help dominant eye players.

My product has a little different approach but has the same advantage like Joe's magic eye as you can put right on your shaft (not stationary like the sightright board) and shows exaxtly the perfect head position (as well how high above the cue your head should be positioned (which is different for each player)/perfect eye position/ cue position under your chin/ if you really hit the cue ball's center/ eleminates across the line cueing and shows immediately if your stroke was straight after having followed through (to finish position) for players with a dominant eye.

Will be available next year in January or February for around 19 bucks.

Standing upright behind the balls and aiming needs your dominant eye on your sighting line, or your vision center when you sight with both eyes- But beeing down in your set position needs your head to be over the cue in the right spot to get the same picture that you had when being in your upright position. In case your head is tilted a bit when beeing down over the cue, the positon of your eyes/ cue might has to be different due to your head position.

To test this just take a CD hold it in front of you and look through the hole of the CD while aimi g on a target a little away. Now in the holiday time anyone has candles on the table- so look through the hole of the CD and aim on the
wick of the candle (or take the door frame) and see how the positon of your head changes the perception of your dominant eye!!!!

In case you wanna test the sight right board effect just take a book, open it and put it on the pool table with it's middle right in line with the line at the head spot (or baulk line on a snooker table)
Draw a line along the center of the book and put it in line with the line on the table.

Now go down with your body/head/cue as you are used to do and aim along the book line / table line having your non dominant eye closed and aiming with your dominant eye until you happen to see the line of the book beeing perfectly aligned with the line on the table
(perception has to be that both lines become one line/ book line MUST NOT POINT TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT OF THE LINE ON THE TABLE)

You will see that multiple head positions will be possible (depends as well on how dominant your dominant eye is)!
For sure it works having your dominant eye right on the line but in case your head is tilted a bit or looks a little to the right or left (across the line/your cue with your nose) a position with your cue under the center of your chin and having the perfect picture is possible.

Knowing this, will change anyone's game to the better and will definitely be an eye opener!

Best luck to all of you!
 
Ekki,

sry for *jumping* into your thread.
Imo all too complicated :)
Seeing the straight-line is the goal, keeping the head and the cue in the perfect position ist the goal- and also later the key to success.

I m still with the old method- it never disappointed me, and i never had someone who NOT learned by using this method. Nowadays sold as the *Sightright* Method. For a lots of bucks :p
Google for *SightRight* and you ll find and see the sense about it.


lg
Ingo
 
head/eye position

Hey Ingo,

I think in general you are right!
Best thing is to keep your head/eyes in the position it is (was) when you align the shot. Nevertheless I recognized very often, that players are not aware of changing their head position while going down (They tilt it to one side or look across the line of aim when beeing down and look at the target differently than being upright!!!!)

Doing this, the picture of the point they are aiming at changes- compared to the picture they had when aiming along their line when they were standing.

Recommendation: Take a CD hold it in your left hand when your are a righty/right hand when you are a lefty>)and look through it's hole while aiming on a target in case you (not you personally Ingo :-) )don't know which one is your dominant eye or if you sight with both eyes / If you do it in front of a mirror you will see exactly where your eye/chin/ nose has to be located to get the perfect picture

Changing the head/eye position while going down just a little can change the world as you know!

This unconscious head/eye movement will lead to
- a different picture when you are in your SET position
- cueing action across the line of aim
- unwanted English (and deflection of cue ball on it's way to the object ball)

= missing the shot (the further away and the firmer you shoot the more often you will miss)

Working on these basics will show more flaws (in case you got any) than anything else in my opinion- even for good players!

NOTICE: Playing around with the position of your front foot (left foot for righties and the other foot for lefties) in their stance will help a lot of players to get the correct body/head/eye position again and again once they have found their perfect picture.

Best drill after having found your perfect position of your head/chin/eye above your cue in your SET position is doing the old drill of shooting a ball
down table along the middle of the table (position it on the head spot and shoot down in direction of the foot spot (2nd diamond) but not softly and with a follow shot---BUT shoot it with a draw shot and speed 3 or faster. (speed 3 = cue ball has to make contact with 3 short rails or more) Be sure to put a lighter on the rail right on the 2nd diamond at the foot rail to make aiming easier!!!

Take a striped ball to shoot with (as the cue ball) and shoot while letting show the stripes parallel to the direction your shooting.

Now, even if you are able to shoot the ball in a straight line using a follow shot and a rather soft speed you might have problems with draw and faster speed when your front foot/body/head/eye position and your grip is not perfect!

So now start to play arround ONLY with your front foot position and your grip until you manage to get this ball up and down on a straight line without changing anything else in your stance. (particular part of your back foot has to be on the line of the shot obviously)

Once you get this down your way to excellence will be straight too (no more serpentines :-)

Don`t take it as an advice for you personally - give it a try with your students...I am 100% sure that even some 100+x ball runners may have problems at the beginning and will be able to improve their basics doing as adviced!

Notice: It is not about doing this drill- it is about finding your perfect head/eye position and after having found it for soft follow shots
where some of your flaws will not always show as the unintende English may have been gone until the CB reaches the first rail)
about finding your perfect front foot and grip hand position when you shoot firm and with draw!

Looking forward for/everyone's your feedback!

EKKES
 
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Well Ekki,

Usually I decided for myself, to get me completely *out of* some threads, because they ususally in unsatisfying cyberwars- especially here on AZ nowadays. But as we know each other buddy, I decided to just *give my opinion* from my experience.
i think i understand your for sure- and knowing what you re trying to *tell the community*.
I also spent a lot of time just about aligning/sighting. That s the main thing I begin with with EVERY player I work with-no matter how strong he is. How I wrote in the other posting, I usually (hm, maybe always^^) use the technique, they use for the *SightRight*. Here I tend to use a slightly different method ( just more practice-related) which I developed for myself in the past.
And here the student immediately will see, that HE IS OFF THE LINE with his sighting- and also, if his cueing has issues, too.

So I would never show *dis-respect* against you Ekki – so I just wrote a *short* text, how I deal with it. By far not that complicated like other *instructors*. But as long I have success with my *simple* method I use, I will for sure stay with it.


Lg Ekki, have some nice xmas days,

Ingo
 
GaryB,

this is not really what Geno is teaching. I agree for sure on many things Geno is teaching-he has a LOT of knowledge.
I also agree with many others, that some ppl tend to overcomplicate things on this theme- but there is definitley the need, to find *everyones* correct position for the *vision-center* and the *striking line*- and finally to put these two important things together.

Anyway the far bigger amount has *just* (no offense) not the technical abilities to deliver a really repeatable and straight stroke. And then oyu ll have for sure a problem :) no matter where your eyes are sighting :p

merry xmas.

Ingo
 
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