How to make the cue ball jump on the break
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Wizardry said:
It's pretty simple. Just increase the angle of the cue a little and it should start popping up and jumping off the table and being out of control in general.
Wizardry said:care to elaborate? i have tried doing so, but in the end the cue ball always seems to have an element of either backspin of follow....
hit in between the two spots your hitting.......
for the cue to jump straight up and back down, a couple things have to happen........first the rack needs to be tight..........second you need to hit the 1 ball as square as possible with center ball.
why would you want to make the cue ball jump up anyway?
thanks
VAP
Try to make a bridge up on the rail while breaking from the side. Hit CB. Watch CB hit wall. Repeat.
Seriously, you DO NOT want to jump the CB on the break. You might have seen it happen on Accu-Stats tapes or whatever, but that's a effect of some very hard breaks. If you could choose, you would want the CB to never jump at all when breaking (but that's impossible - like it is on any shot). That would give you the best control. You do not gain any power by it jumping.
Seriously, you DO NOT want to jump the CB on the break. You might have seen it happen on Accu-Stats tapes or whatever, but that's a effect of some very hard breaks. If you could choose, you would want the CB to never jump at all when breaking (but that's impossible - like it is on any shot). That would give you the best control. You do not gain any power by it jumping.
Wizardry said:
here's the best tip......................DON'T.
thanks
VAP
When I was in Asia this came up a lot because some of the best taiwanese breakers in the world bounce the cue ball on the break shot causing it to jump back after impact and land dead still in the centre of the table. What I was told second hand was , break from the left side a tip width below centre pushing down slightly and through the cue ball. This causes the cue ball to bounce slightly which results in it jumping back after impact with the pack. I practised it for a while and its not as hard as it seems and is a very effective break if you can master it. You really dont lose any power and having that cb park itself in the centre of the table is a huge advantage. The hardest thing is to do it consistently, but with practice it is possible.
TheOne said:
The CB bounces up in the air because it is off the table surface, when it strikes the lead ball. Some of the CB's energy is not imparted to the rack.
When the cue ball is struck in the break shot, it actually bounces toward the rack. As it bounces, each successive arc (what goes up, must come down) get's approximately half as long. If the cue ball is ricocheting off the table & is on the upwards arc, when it strikes the lead ball, this can cause the cue ball to be launched. If the cue ball is on the downward arc, it will bounce (carom) off the leadball into the table surface, hop up into the air & back down to the table. The spin on the cue ball will determine it's action at that point. Follow goes forward into the rack area, Draw comes back to the kitchen, Center Ball may just bounce back & roll slightly.
I don't really think there's a substantial loss in the power dept. You can smash the rack and pop the cueball. I agree with the one...I've seen a lot people make it work real good for them. You break a bit off the side rail, jack up a little bit...you're basically "jumping" the cue ball a little bit - and it's gotta land right before the 1.
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randyg said:
Exactly! When the cueball jumps, it's a lack of control! No one can predict whether the cueball will land on another ball, which will more often than not, result in the cueball coming off the table! You're much better off trying to emulate a break that has control!
just more hot air!
Sherm
If you're powering the break shot, the cue ball is leaving the table to at least some extent (as per CeeBee's post). If you're banging balls with you're buddies, or want to impress some ladies, launching the cue ball is great. I'm not sure it's something you want to do intentionally if you're playing a serious match (although maybe it is reading The One's post).
I don't try to do it, but sometimes it happens. Once, I did it with a slightly off center hit on the head ball, and the cue jumped about 3 feet up and to the right. It hit a couple inches from the side rail between the 2nd & 3rd diamonds, bounced up onto the rail and slid down the rail about a foot before whatever spin I had put on it took over. The cue then shot back to the left and onto the table at about the first diamond, going straight across and into the 8 ball which had slid a little bit back after the break. Of course the 8 went right into the opposite corner for the win, lol.
My opponent says "You're not gonna take that, are you?"
~Chris
I don't try to do it, but sometimes it happens. Once, I did it with a slightly off center hit on the head ball, and the cue jumped about 3 feet up and to the right. It hit a couple inches from the side rail between the 2nd & 3rd diamonds, bounced up onto the rail and slid down the rail about a foot before whatever spin I had put on it took over. The cue then shot back to the left and onto the table at about the first diamond, going straight across and into the 8 ball which had slid a little bit back after the break. Of course the 8 went right into the opposite corner for the win, lol.
My opponent says "You're not gonna take that, are you?"
~Chris
hmmm... will there ever me such a thing as a perfect break? just like in snooker when the pros nudge the second last ball to come 3-4 rail and CB end on the top rail..will there every be such a day with the introduction of the Sardo tight right rack?
what is perfect break? pot as many balls as possible? well spread table? making at least one ball on the break? (either wing balls or the 1 ball into the side?). popping the CB in the middle of the park?
what is perfect break? pot as many balls as possible? well spread table? making at least one ball on the break? (either wing balls or the 1 ball into the side?). popping the CB in the middle of the park?
cuesmith said:
I can honestly say that I havent lost the white ball off the table once. When I forst was told about this I thought exactly the same as everyone else, you will lose power, its a biut wild. But what I thought was if the best breakers in the world eg yang, chao? are using it then it must work? I tried it and was pleasantly suprised, I suggest you give it a try? Incidently my friend tried it and he's a 147 snooker man and he lost the cb off the table lol!