dendweller
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Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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How to save professional pool...no, really.
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dendweller
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on the other hand, I'm not sure that telling someone their argument is poorly thought out during what is essentially a debate is not being nice.Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing. Remember, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
Oh, that's Okayyyyyyy, I'll survive.Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
I can’t even get advanced pool players to watch pool. If I have a pool night at home and put a match on TV they say, “isn’t there a game on?”,nothing can save pool, so much luck involved and non-pool players will get bored watching it.....very very simple!
bring anyone who doesn't play pool and ask them to watch it, I dare you if they continue watching for 50min match!!! I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
My wife leaves me when I watch pool, my father sleeps when I put pool on while he's next to me......Even my wife said I don't like this and sometimes if I put on snooker she watches and enjoys it, go figure!
meaning football or basketball. I used to take dvd’s down to the hall and the players didn’t want to watch. They all love pool but said it’s too boring to watch, and when I would tell them who the player’s were they never heard of them
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Exactly this happened to me too in the pool hall I had an accustata PPV that I bought to watch a live event can’t remember what it is. I put it in a big screen room that we have in the pool hall something like a cinema where I told all players who I’m friends with in that pool hall to come and watch for free cause I already paid for the ppv. Guess what, they rather to keep playing at the table than watching. Nobody watched. And it was a big event can’t remember which maybe us open or somethingI can’t even get advanced pool players to watch pool. If I have a pool night at home and put a match on TV they say, “isn’t there a game on?”,
meaning football or basketball. I used to take dvd’s down to the hall and the players didn’t want to watch. They all love pool but said it’s too boring to watch, and when I would tell them who the player’s were they never heard of them
I was so shocked. They rather spend time to play than watch a big event with pros playing lol
nothing can save pool, so much luck involved and non-pool players will get bored watching it.....very very simple!
Makes me wonder how the actual sports like Tennis make it work. 95% of the people I run into hate the notion of watching that little yellow ball get knocked back and forth. It usually takes a player of the game to appreciate what those athletes are doing on the court. Even then most casual players I know couldn't be bothered to watch an actual match. Maybe the highlight reel....I can’t even get advanced pool players to watch pool.
Maybe the best thing that could happen to global pool is if the game was banned in NA for lengthy period of time. Reset the image that brings it down...lol.
How does having exclusivity via a club and qualifications generate "people [who] are willing to fill up venues every weekend or more"? There is no connection or causal relationship between these two things. You have utterly failed to connect these dots.That's what I've been advocating for since I opened this thread.
When I talk about exclusivity, I'm talking about the 203 men who won money on the PGA Tour last year. The PGA Tour is so exclusive that just about every kid that got the bug was willing to make the sacrifices necessary to make it inside the ropes. Many tried, many failed. Why? Because the guys holding the cards are the BEST in the world. There are over 2000 players on the 2022 professional pool money board. One of the guys won $250,000.00 (before expenses and taxes) while Rory won $1,890,000.00 in one event. Most of the guys won less than $10,000.00. There is no exclusivity in pool.
I love local pool because that is where its heart is. Beer, BS, babes. But this thread is about Professional Pool. If Professional Pool stands a chance of realizing its full potential, it must elevate itself. The best way to do that is through exclusivity. The best way to become exclusive is to form a club, entry into which requires the same kind of dedication and sacrifice required to get a card on Tour.
There is no dead money in Nascar. There is no dead money in the NFL. There is no dead money in the NBA or the NHL, etc., etc. Nothing but the best need apply. Rafael Nadal doesn't need dead money. Why? Because people are willing to fill up venues every weekend or more. Big, nationally known sponsors are there because they want all of those fans to buy their products. The only thing pool has been selling lately is black pool balls.
I'm 77 and I probably won't live long enough to see it. It won't be easy, but nothing worth anything is easy. When I come back in my next life, I'm gonna want to see Professional Pool Players driving around in Lamborghinis and Ferraris, and drinking champagne at Maxims, no more of this stealing catsup packs from MacDonald's just so they can make a catsup sandwich with their last loaf of stale bread.
Get big, or go home. It's that easy.
Boxcar
PGA Middle Atlantic Section
Country Club Assistant Professional and Teaching Professional
And I did it when I was 51 years old just to prove that I could.
Not to mention the fact that in golf the venue is a couple of hundred acres that can hold tens of thousands of ticket buying spectators. In pool, not so.
But she's hardly the face of golf. She may be the bosoms of golf, but not the face.But Boxcar does get 2 points for the picture of Page.
Pool is like sex. Much better as a participant sport than a spectator sport.Exactly this happened to me too in the pool hall I had an accustata PPV that I bought to watch a live event can’t remember what it is. I put it in a big screen room that we have in the pool hall something like a cinema where I told all players who I’m friends with in that pool hall to come and watch for free cause I already paid for the ppv. Guess what, they rather to keep playing at the table than watching. Nobody watched. And it was a big event can’t remember which maybe us open or something
I was so shocked. They rather spend time to play than watch a big event with pros playing lol
Why do people watch wrestling on TV?How does having exclusivity via a club and qualifications generate "people [who] are willing to fill up venues every weekend or more"? There is no connection or causal relationship between these two things. You have utterly failed to connect these dots.
Not to mention the fact that in golf the venue is a couple of hundred acres that can hold tens of thousands of ticket buying spectators. In pool, not so.
Why do women watch football?
Why do men watch cooking shows?
Why do women watch Nascar?
The common bond may be found in the word "celebrity."
Who will you watch on TV, a nobody or a celebrity? And if your answer is "celebrity," why? Why do people go to DCC?
It's not really incumbent upon me to connect the dots. That's your job. Causal relationships are different from comparing similar subsets.
And never forget, it is impossible to prove a negative hypothesis.
Well, I'll be damned! There's the answer right there. Professional pool players should play "Strip Pool." The main difference between Strip Pool and Strip Poker: in Strip Pool, you can only remove an article of clothing when you win.Lots of people watch porn.
Very few watch pool.
Noti
Just like Forged in Fires audience isn't knife makers or The Ultimate Fighters primary audience isn't MMA practitioners.
Not in its current form. It needs to be presented in a way that captures the attention of the non pool playing public.Let's make it easy. Can Professional Pool make it on Television? Yes or no.
Just like Forged in Fires audience isn't knife makers or The Ultimate Fighters primary audience isn't MMA practitioners.
Thank you! You are right on top of it!Noti
Not in its current form. It needs to be presented in a way that captures the attention of the non pool playing public.
Just like Forged in Fires audience isn't knife makers or The Ultimate Fighters primary audience isn't MMA practitioners.
Do you have any thoughts on how to acquire larger, less topic specific audiences?
I suggest picking a reality show format, bring in talent with character mixed with characters with talent. Throw in some drama and present back stories. Have some competitions and create champions. Create stars.Do you have any thoughts on how to acquire larger, less topic specific audiences?
Imho
How would you identify the talent? In other words, what pool or population would you draw from?I suggest picking a reality show format, bring in talent with character mixed with characters with talent. Throw in some drama and present back stories. Have some competitions and create champions. Create stars.
Imho
I would definitely hire smarter and more talented people than myself to make those decisions but I would think the pool of people you would be drawing from might depend on the format of the show. Something styled like The Ultimate Fighter , Top Chef ,Survivor or something else I don't know.