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8-ball bernie

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i was thinking of the women on the ipt,and it's interesting to note, that, allison fisher is just another player on this tour. what i mean by that is this~~~~ usually one would have to conceed, that allison on most tours is the name to beat,true? however, when watching allison at the practice table, the night before the tournament, saturday night, when we all practice, i look at her and think,"shit, she is just another player, no one special" now THAT'S a tour!!!!! think about it. how difficult is the IPT tour? well, when allison fisher is "just another player" you know, it's the toughest professional tour ever.
 
If you think its tough now its going to be twice as tough come December Bernie ;)
 
Think that when you play her Bernie and you will be gravely disappointed.
 
TheOne said:
If you think its tough now its going to be twice as tough come December Bernie ;)

I agree, but by then it may not matter to Bernie.

Dave
 
8-ball bernie said:
i was thinking of the women on the ipt,and it's interesting to note, that, allison fisher is just another player on this tour. what i mean by that is this~~~~ usually one would have to conceed, that allison on most tours is the name to beat,true? however, when watching allison at the practice table, the night before the tournament, saturday night, when we all practice, i look at her and think,"shit, she is just another player, no one special" now THAT'S a tour!!!!! think about it. how difficult is the IPT tour? well, when allison fisher is "just another player" you know, it's the toughest professional tour ever.

Allison would be just another player in a UPA Event. Are we to similarly conclude that the UPA is the toughest professional tour ever?
 
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sjm said:
Allison would be just another player in a UPA Event. Are we to similarly conclude that the UPA is the toughest professional tour ever?

I would go a step further and say she would be just another player on the Joss tour. There are so many talent filled tours out there and as talented as she is, among the cream of the crop, she is just another player.

JMO,
Koop
 
I have to agree with Koop. There are a ton of strong players who are capable of beating Allison like Hatch, Joey K, Zuglan. I think Allison controls the cueball as well as anyone though. Her break holds her back. JMO of course.
 
cgriffin5 said:
I have to agree with Koop. There are a ton of strong players who are capable of beating Allison like Hatch, Joey K, Zuglan. I think Allison controls the cueball as well as anyone though. Her break holds her back. JMO of course.

Absolutely. And those are just 3 names of many. Not saying she can't beat them but I would be hard be pressed to bet against them.
 
I have been studying Allison ...

cgriffin5 said:
I have to agree with Koop. There are a ton of strong players who are capable of beating Allison like Hatch, Joey K, Zuglan. I think Allison controls the cueball as well as anyone though. Her break holds her back. JMO of course.

and she has more weaknesses that just the break. Given 9 ball, medium to hard jump shots is weak per her level of play, and although she mentally picks good safeties to play, her execution of them is lacking somewhat. But, the fact is, most of her opponents (except maybe Karen) make so many logic or execution mistakes, that she still wins, even when she is having an 'off' day.
Most of her opponents play 'pretty' well, but THEY DO NOT know how to defeat Allison, or to win against her by exploiting her weaknesses to gain the upperhand on her.
 
Koop said:
I would go a step further and say she would be just another player on the Joss tour. There are so many talent filled tours out there and as talented as she is, among the cream of the crop, she is just another player.

JMO,
Koop


Your dead on Koop, could you imagine if Allison were to ever play the San Miguel Asian Tour? She would have a hard time advancing out of the first round. She would be hard pressed to finish in the money at a Euro-Tour stop as well.
 
mind you, i didn't mean to make the focus on allison fisher, i meant to make the focus on how tough the IPT is. look at tony robles, an ace player out of new york, who is amazing!,now look at his record on the ipt, just another player,look at kunihiko takahashi japan's finest, just another player on the IPT, etc. etc. so that's what i was saying, usually if you get those names into a fairly big local tournament, they would be the ones to watch out for, but on the IPT, they blend into the backround,it's tough out there!
 
sniper said:
Your dead on Koop, could you imagine if Allison were to ever play the San Miguel Asian Tour? She would have a hard time advancing out of the first round. She would be hard pressed to finish in the money at a Euro-Tour stop as well.

No doubt buddy.

Bernie,

I hear you. I have a lot of admiration for Aliison's game, just pointing out the fact that she is very beatable among any of the top tours.

Regards,
koop
 
Koop said:
No doubt buddy.

Bernie,

I hear you. I have a lot of admiration for Aliison's game, just pointing out the fact that she is very beatable among any of the top tours.

Regards,
koop

I would counter all this by saying that Allison would be a threat to win any Joss tour she plays, just as Karen is. And what I mean by that, is that she could win one.

Let's not forget, all the names mentioned for the Joss tour (Joey K, Hatch, Zuglan, etc) can all very easily not cash in one of those tournaments. They're all beatable because they all play fairly perfect pool over a race to 9. Let's not make this a situation where if Allison played and didn't cash, we'd say, "See?" They've all not cashed!

I've been to countless tournaments where the so-called favorites didn't make it out of the second round, and so have you. When two people who play very, very well play a race to 9, one of them is going to lose. When they then meet on the loser's side, one of them is going home.

- Steve
 
Has Allison ever played in any other tournament other than WPBA?

Why doesn't she play on other tours?

Too many other commitments? Too far to travel? The money she might win is not worth her time and effort?

Jake
 
I think if you look at the IPT as a whole, its tough as hell.

I mean unless your name is Reyes, Bustamante, Archer, Thorston H. , Marlon, and many of the other Elite players. That the tournament is tough.

And its because of the round robin format. If you get one group with Archer and Reyes in it, or any of the Elite players in it. Your not going anywhere.

Thats just how it is. And you can see it everytime they have a tournament and you see where players finished.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
I mean unless your name is "Reyes, Bustamante, Archer, Thorston H. , Marlon, and many of the other Elite players"

That would be a very long name! :confused:
 
jjinfla said:
Has Allison ever played in any other tournament other than WPBA?

Why doesn't she play on other tours?

Too many other commitments? Too far to travel? The money she might win is not worth her time and effort?

Jake
Allison is 2 for 2 in Men's regional events I believe. She definitely won one beating TK in the finals. It was a TK or Viking event or maybe both.
 
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