How would you play this?

buzzsaw

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OK, I am in the process of running out from the break and due to poor shape on the previous shot this is what I had to settle for. I am shooting solids. How would you play this? Just to let you know I did get out from here.

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Let's jus say, I don't like your odds. You have to play a safe somewhere but the problem is that he has balls everywhere. In my perfect world, I would just try to hit a stop shot and freeze to the 9. But even if I executed it perfectly, chances are the person will just safe me back and I'd be done.

At this point I would be asking myself, "what could I have done differently in this rack". I think you should have bailed with a safe earlier based on this layout. Or, you may have missed position or something late in the game. In general, the results do not look favorable for you in this rack.
 
This is the only thing I can see and dont really "like" it. It pushes the 8 out from the 15 and you will have a shot on the 8 if you can sink that in the side.... that's all I could think of trying and theres no real easy safe at all since his balls are all over.

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I'd send the 1 ball in front of the 13 to block its pocket and try to leave the cue ball behind the 8/15 cluster. I think that is the option in this bad predicament.
 
That's the only way i see the table being run out is banking the one in the side and shooting the 8 in the other side. I'm sure your opponent thought he was getting to the table when he saw this leave.
 
DeadPoked said:
I'd send the 1 ball in front of the 13 to block its pocket and try to leave the cue ball behind the 8/15 cluster. I think that is the option in this bad predicament.
I thought about this one. I could barely get the solid past the stripe but the guy is a really good shooter and I knew he would have safed me to death.
 
cubc said:
This is the only thing I can see and dont really "like" it. It pushes the 8 out from the 15 and you will have a shot on the 8 if you can sink that in the side.... that's all I could think of trying and theres no real easy safe at all since his balls are all over.

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You're half right but I didn't bank the ball in the side.
 
Ah you banked it into the 11 and made both? Hoping that if you didnt make both at least it would block that corner pocket and you would still free up the 8?

I dont know if thats right but.. i find that risky because of what can happen hitting balls into other balls and where your ball would be left. At least if you missed the side pocket or hit a titty your ball would be left somewhere in the open which by way of miracle may get in his way or at least if he did make a mistake you could still hit it.

If not... then I'm intrigued as to what you did.

edit: Is this some shot you lucked out on that was really a hail mary like a 3 rail in the lower left corner? or did you have to actually call the pocket and play a skilled shot?
 
I just reread your first comment and you said you got out from there... So rethinking it... If you didn't play the 1-rail bank in the side, I guess it might be possible to bank the 1 ball two rails behind the 13 going to the right end rail which is the 3rd rail and sending it back to the bottom left corner pocket as it is seen on wei table. Depending on how you can get around the 13 it might be possible to make in the bottom side pocket as well.

The tangent line would take it towards the cluster. If you hit the top side of the 15 you could bump the 8 towards the bottom left corner pocket and line up a shot in the same pocket you just made the 1.
 
cubc said:
Ah you banked it into the 11 and made both? Hoping that if you didnt make both at least it would block that corner pocket and you would still free up the 8?

I dont know if thats right but.. i find that risky because of what can happen hitting balls into other balls and where your ball would be left. At least if you missed the side pocket or hit a titty your ball would be left somewhere in the open which by way of miracle may get in his way or at least if he did make a mistake you could still hit it.

If not... then I'm intrigued as to what you did.

edit: Is this some shot you lucked out on that was really a hail mary like a 3 rail in the lower left corner? or did you have to actually call the pocket and play a skilled shot?
You got it. I put a little low english on the cueball which gave me forward roll coming off the rail with the one. I had to hit the stripe as flush as I could to get the roll to make the one. It barely dropped but it did drop. The eight popped down to the bottom rail and left me straight in. I was doing some high-fiven after that one.
 
I don't think that bank in the side is possible. You have to shoot it too hard to get the breakout. I would be banking to make the 11. But speed is important. You want to make the 11 and keep the 1 in front of the pocket. Remember, you're opponenent isn't out of this rack yet, he has 2 clusters to deal with and only the 13 to use. Still, I'm sure I could get out with ball in hand. Blocking the 12 would make things a lot tougher though. Bank the 1 into the 11, that's my shot.
 
buzzsaw said:
You got it. I put a little low english on the cueball which gave me forward roll coming off the rail with the one. I had to hit the stripe as flush as I could to get the roll to make the one. It barely dropped but it did drop. The eight popped down to the bottom rail and left me straight in. I was doing some high-fiven after that one.

Nice job on that out. That definately wasnt an easy shot to go for and had to be accurate. Good stuff.

"I don't think that bank in the side is possible." - Drew

It is if you hit it more straight down the rail and throw it with left english. It'll spin the cueball on the same path to break the others out and still throw the 1 in the side. I do like what he did better. But him saying he was out from there i'm not used to shooting balls through other balls so that's why I thought side pocket. Either way all of his options were far from easy.
 
You're going to lose but before you do, you should try to figure out a way to open up everything in case your opponent misses. He needs the upper left corner quite a bit so I'd try to leave the 1-ball there and see if I can open up the 8-ball.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
You're going to lose but before you do, you should try to figure out a way to open up everything in case your opponent misses. He needs the upper left corner quite a bit so I'd try to leave the 1-ball there and see if I can open up the 8-ball.

Hey brain.. he already said he did get out from here.. and has already said how he got out from here and actually won.

So he didnt lose :D
 
cubc said:
Hey brain.. he already said he did get out from here.. and has already said how he got out from here and actually won.

So he didnt lose :D

Lol yeah, with some ridiculous 3 rail bank. You lose this 90% of the time.
 
cubc said:
Hey brain.. he already said he did get out from here.. and has already said how he got out from here and actually won.

So he didnt lose :D


Yes, why did I not see the obvious bank off the end rail in the side pocket?


Sorry, I was answering the the title of the thread. Perhaps, for your sake, it should be titled, "How do you think I crapped my way out of the rack?"
 
Drew said:
Lol yeah, with some ridiculous 3 rail bank. You lose this 90% of the time.
Sorry Drew but it was a simple one rail bank. In this case I made it 100% of the time.:D
 
Drew said:
Lol yeah, with some ridiculous 3 rail bank. You lose this 90% of the time.


I was guessing 95% of the time but you could be right. Regardless, my point in saying you're in a losing situation is to point out that you have to have that frame of mind when approaching this shot. You either have to go for something crazy or try and figure out a way to buy another inning.
 
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