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rikdee

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Watching the vids, it appears Bobby uses the parallel english technique. Dennis, can you comment?
Separately, I enjoy watching his play. His patterns are so clear insofar as I was taught to play the same way by Tom Kollins. Bobby was just becoming a name player at that time in the Michigan area.

_Rick
 
Hunter/Kollins

rikdee said:
Watching the vids, it appears Bobby uses the parallel english technique. Dennis, can you comment?
Separately, I enjoy watching his play. His patterns are so clear insofar as I was taught to play the same way by Tom Kollins. Bobby was just becoming a name player at that time in the Michigan area.

_Rick
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I'm sorry but I don't know what the parallel english technique is. Can you tell me? I'll ask him.

He did tell us that a seminar by Tom Kollins helped him learn how to play straight pool.

What exactly did Tom teach? I've seen him up in Grayslake at the cue 'n you and his son won a 14.1 tournament there.
 
dmgwalsh said:
I'm sorry but I don't know what the parallel english technique is. Can you tell me? I'll ask him.

He did tell us that a seminar by Tom Kollins helped him learn how to play straight pool.

What exactly did Tom teach? I've seen him up in Grayslake at the cue 'n you and his son won a 14.1 tournament there.
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Oh, in a word, classic straight pool. If I were more computer literate and thus able to upload, I still have all the break shot pattern diagrams that he passed out to us at his "School for Straight Pool" which he conducted at the Velvet Rail in Lansing Michigan during 1976. Vicki Frechen was also in that class. I still have all the notes I took as well.
Tom was an excellent safety player and taught a lot of lessons about safety play and especially, safety strategy. He was also very adept at finding dead balls in the rack. These lessons have remained a big part of my game since; my safety and deadball play have subsequently developed to a high level. Watching Bobby play is like watching Tom all over again; Tom was that good. Yet, it was always his pattern IDs that were most profound. I see them in Bobby's game in most every rack he plays.
Do a search on the main forum for both parallel and back hand english (BHE).It has been discussed extensively. I have recently worked on converting to BHE, having used the other technique for more than forty years.
 
rikdee said:
Oh, in a word, classic straight pool. If I were more computer literate and thus able to upload, I still have all the break shot pattern diagrams that he passed out to us at his "School for Straight Pool" which he conducted at the Velvet Rail in Lansing Michigan during 1976. Vicki Frechen was also in that class. I still have all the notes I took as well.
Tom was an excellent safety player and taught a lot of lessons about safety play and especially, safety strategy. He was also very adept at finding dead balls in the rack. These lessons have remained a big part of my game since; my safety and deadball play have subsequently developed to a high level. Watching Bobby play is like watching Tom all over again; Tom was that good. Yet, it was always his pattern IDs that were most profound. I see them in Bobby's game in most every rack he plays.
Do a search on the main forum for both parallel and back hand english (BHE).It has been discussed extensively. I have recently worked on converting to BHE, having used the other technique for more than forty years.
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If you could copy your notes and diagrams, I could scan them and turn them into a pdf for you and me and whomever. I'd pay what it costs, if you wouldn't mind.

I've thought before about talking to Tom Kollins about doing a straight pool seminar. That may have to be an autumn project for me, depending upon whether Bobby Hunter stays in the area or not. Otherwise, I may talk to him about it.

Dennis
 
dmgwalsh said:
If you could copy your notes and diagrams, I could scan them and turn them into a pdf for you and me and whomever. I'd pay what it costs, if you wouldn't mind.

I've thought before about talking to Tom Kollins about doing a straight pool seminar. That may have to be an autumn project for me, depending upon whether Bobby Hunter stays in the area or not. Otherwise, I may talk to him about it.

Dennis
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send me a PM.

_Rick
 
I really like Bobby's patterns as well. He plays a lot of insurance routes as most great players do. And I try to do as well. Or I should say, not quite as well.

But I think this is really key to playing the game well. You need cueball control not only to land on balls properly, but to have the confidence that you can move around the table until that insured break shot is ready to be played. I think too often people go into clusters with no insurance because they don't think they can do all the work that's necessary to fall properly on the insured ball to break them up.
 
dmgwalsh said:
If you could copy your notes and diagrams, I could scan them and turn them into a pdf for you and me and whomever.
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that's a nice idea, pdf thing. First I though of was scanning (or even photocopying with a camera) and emailing the pictures to anyone, in case you rikdee find trouble uploading. Attaching a file to an email is easy enough.
Dennis hope you do allright of those diagrams. Straight pool seems to be my only love at a pool table now ;)
 
PDF of Kollins Break Shot Patterns

rikdee was kind enough to scan and email me part of the handout from a seminar on straight pool he took with Tom Kollins in 1977. Nice little 3 and 4 ball patterns that end up with break shots. Triangles or connect the dots or whatever else you want to call them.

I reduced it to 91 kb, but that is still too large to post here. Send me your emails and I will email to you.

Email me direct at gwtlaw@aol.com and I can easily forward it to you.
 
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