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[Patrick Johnson]

Watch the top snooker players and most pool players! They all drop the elbow. Short shots they don't, but anything requiring a stroke the elbow drops.

I suppose by "anything requiring a stroke" you mean "anything requiring a harder stroke", and I think you'll find that these players' elbows mostly drop as a natural consequence of following through on a harder shot after the cue ball has left the tip.

But stroking into a bottle might require you to drop your elbow during the "business" part of the stroke, which I think is unnecessary and probably detrimental. For that matter, I think dropping the elbow is mostly unnecessary even for harder stroked shots - watch top 3-cushion players to see what can be done without dropping the elbow at all.

pj
chgo

 

[Jason Robichaud]

I suppose by "anything requiring a stroke" you mean "anything requiring a harder stroke", and I think you'll find that these players' elbows mostly drop as a natural consequence of following through on a harder shot after the cue ball has left the tip.

But stroking into a bottle might require you to drop your elbow during the "business" part of the stroke, which I think is unnecessary and probably detrimental. For that matter, I think dropping the elbow is mostly unnecessary even for harder stroked shots - watch top 3-cushion players to see what can be done without dropping the elbow at all.

pj
chgo

When I hold my arm and cue at 90 degrees (tip should be close to the CB) this is the bottom of the stroke. A level delivery is possible through the CB a couple of ways: using wrist and fingers or drop elbow. A snooker stroke doesn't have a lot of follow and the cue can be stroked level with the wrist. The cue is guided along the chest and chin so the cue can only go level. The hand hits the chest and that stops the follow. More power then the arm loosens the elbow drops and my wrist and hand is used to make power. Since my hand and wrist is used for the power I drop elbow to stay level. Their strokes are very short compared to a pool stroke. The break and power shots while loading the spin are the hardest adjustment for a snooker player.

 

[hurly]

that right there is huge! even when all the other tools are working a mental lapse causes a castrophy, infact the better you get at everything the more damaging a loss of focus can be, bangers arent effected when they arnt concentraiting,

Absolutely!!! Whether it be the moment or over a period of a few days...it's like not having the same brain. Ya can't "force" creativity.

 

[Big C]

Absolutely!!! Whether it be the moment or over a period of a few days...it's like not having the same brain. Ya can't "force" creativity.

I think this is where drugs come into the equation. I have seen some players play like SVB when they are jacked. When they are clean they play at a B level. And no, I am not saying that SVB plays on drugs, just some other players I have personally seen. I don't condone it, but it's a reality us clean players have to deal with.

 

[Jason Robichaud]

Anyone surprised at the results? With the 1000 aiming threads, I wasn't expecting it to have the lowest vote.

I thought: Aiming 30% or more and break would be the lowest, below 10%.

 

[pooltchr]

Not really surprised. Most of us know that if there are problems with the stroke, it doesn't matter how well you can aim.

Build a solid foundation before you start building the house if you want it to hold up under pressure.

Steve

 

[cmbwsu]

Not really surprised. Most of us know that if there are problems with the stroke, it doesn't matter how well you can aim.

Build a solid foundation before you start building the house if you want it to hold up under pressure.

Steve

For those who voted "All the above" -- how would you rank order of importance as pertains to "your" game at this time? Mine:

1. Stroke
4. Aiming
5. Shape
3. Routine
2. Break

 

[pooltchr]

For those who voted "All the above" -- how would you rank order of importance as pertains to "your" game at this time? Mine:

1. Stroke
4. Aiming
5. Shape
3. Routine
2. Break

interesting. That's pretty much the same order we address these topics in pool school.

Steve